Ron Burke

[Papillon]

Burke puts up big numbers year after year. Like him or hate him you have to respect the work ethic and the volume of numbers they put up.

he is too big to fail

with the industry in severe decline-he is the biggest fish as far as number of horses he "handles" across several racetracks--they need his horses to fill the box or some tracks will cut race days back even more-due to lack of entries

he is "the groom pissed in the stall" (oxycodone HCl positive) Burke

he is too big to fail

[dougie]

I think it's libelous to accuse someone of doping his horses because he is successful. If there is proof, then throw him out of the sport. But until he is proven guilty, it's a tad disingenous to argue with his accomplishments.

[Trigger]

I think it's libelous to accuse someone of doping his horses because he is successful. If there is proof, then throw him out of the sport. But until he is proven guilty, it's a tad disingenous to argue with his accomplishments.

 

Burke suing people for slander / liable is like the mafia running to the cops to resolve a beef.  It's never happening, say what you want about drug positive bs.

Burke has had over the years a number of suspensions for positive.

Who the fuck knows who and how much he pays off, the whole industry is a sewer of corruption.

If he dropped dead tomorrow, made a billion dollars I could care less, why you people talk about the same shit every fucking day is retarded.

Be different, unique, is that too hard?   

The stupid talk about Burke, Trump....they could care less if y'all live or die, why they're rich and powerful and y'all are flopping around like a half dead goldfish in a toilet! 

[dougie]

Trigger.....this is actually the first comment i've ever made about this guy. I don't know anyone personally in this group except one. So if these are horsefolk, gamblers, or just fans, I can't discern. But whether it's a person accused of a violation of the rules, or someone alleged to be on "someone's list", I want to see proof. Otherwise it's just gossip or speculation. As for this guy really giving a flying fuck what folks on Horseplop think of him,I would think he don't give a rat's ass. He's got high-powered owners from what I'm told here and he's wheelbarreling the pesos to the bank.

[Trigger]

Trigger.....this is actually the first comment i've ever made about this guy. I don't know anyone personally in this group except one. So if these are horsefolk, gamblers, or just fans, I can't discern. But whether it's a person accused of a violation of the rules, or someone alleged to be on "someone's list", I want to see proof. Otherwise it's just gossip or speculation. As for this guy really giving a flying fuck what folks on Horseplop think of him,I would think he don't give a rat's ass. He's got high-powered owners from what I'm told here and he's wheelbarreling the pesos to the bank.

Google Ron Burke drug positives, there are plenty of reliable sources and pdfs of official reports, or if you're a member USTA go there, Ohio...

They start a Burke thread every week or two.

Dumb and jealous, or dumb and need to feel aligned with success.

[dougie]

Well, as I said I really don't know enough about him. Or how he operates. As for folks here starting a thread about him often, I guess success breeds some contempt. Burke, for good or bad is the most successful trainer in harness racing. So it's only natural folks have strong opinions on him.I've seen this on numerous throughbred sites concerning Bob Baffert. Tons of topics on him. From his successes to his suspensions to his clients, people love to give their opinions.

[darnoldrocks]

If you are caught doping horses, it eliminates any legacy.   Anything you have done is tainted.

Baffert is clearly in that category.

As for anyone giving a shit about anyone, so true.   This is just a site to get things off your chest.
I don't know Baffert or Burke or Trigger or anyone on this site, so I don't care about them and I am positive they don't care about me. 

How they present themselves on here does give me a little insight into deciding if I would ever want to know them!!!

[Trigger]

If you are caught doping horses, it eliminates any legacy.   Anything you have done is tainted.

Baffert is clearly in that category.

As for anyone giving a shit about anyone, so true.   This is just a site to get things off your chest.
I don't know Baffert or Burke or Trigger or anyone on this site, so I don't care about them and I am positive they don't care about me. 

How they present themselves on here does give me a little insight into deciding if I would ever want to know them!!!

There you go again saying I don't care about you chihuahua cock, of course I care about the personal cheerleader for Donald J. Trump, President of the United States! 



darnoldrocks loves the donald!!! darnoldrocks loves the donald!!!

[Yonkers1A]

If you are caught doping horses, it eliminates any legacy.   Anything you have done is tainted.

Baffert is clearly in that category.

As for anyone giving a shit about anyone, so true.   This is just a site to get things off your chest.
I don't know Baffert or Burke or Trigger or anyone on this site, so I don't care about them and I am positive they don't care about me. 

How they present themselves on here does give me a little insight into deciding if I would ever want to know them!!!

Sam is ok in my book.

[dougie]

darnoldrocks..... I agree. Since most on this site will never really meet each other in person. it's really for "entertainment purposes only". I mispoke when I said I actually said I knew one person on this site. I actually know two personally. But many here seem to know each other from being in the horse business. The vitriol toward each others is pretty funny. So I kind of just sit back and listen. I really enjoy the "handicapping/betting" banter with folks in here. I've actually made a few sweet scores at Woodbine thanks to a Canadian in this group. I can due without the hate from some on here. But I chalk it up and put it in my "Who gives a shit what people think?"  LOL!

[Cashout]

     Somehow people that have no or little success in their lives love knocking someone who has had a lot of success.    It doesn’t matter if it’s harness racing business or politics,  it’s always the same .   Losers always find something to bitch about. 

[dougie]

Cashout.....it's hard to really see who's a loser and who's not on here. I'm told some folks have multiple identities here. Why, I have no idea. Just to cause controversy and stir up shit. The horrible hate from some of these schmucks aside, I enjoy racing banter. I'm sure that Ron Burke doesn't give a shit what people say here.

[seen2much]

I don't believe Burke is to big to fail. The horses will go many trainers. Allard, Pena, Banca, Surick, & Oakes horses went elsewhere.
Jealous statements are lol funny. Mickey couldn't train Lassie to bark & then one day became a top trainer. Ron didn't do this his whole life like others & learned from his father. The chances that he became the horse whisperer are slim & none. Ron has a long list of positives.
Takter, Burke, Bongiorno, Coleman, Pelling, Pena, Oakes, Surick, Allard, & many others success are not real.

[Pacer 2]

Burke has done an amazing job to be on the top of the sport and many are jealous. He's an exceptional entrepreneur! Not many could do what he does.   

[The Answer]

Burke is a smug AH but have to give him credit for his business operational skills. He’s a savant when it comes to horses. Must also treat his employees well as they stick with him and I’ve never heard one say a bad word about him.