Pete Kleinhans

[kantseeback]

Pete's a below average race caller but he's a million times better at calling a race than he is driving a horse....very dangerous on the track...hung the mile in every race ive ever seen him drive

And he's delusional about it, blaming the other drivers for not giving him a hole.

[gh2009]

The top drivers are usually given holes by the other top drivers because it's scratching each other's back, amateur drivers don't get the same courtesy.

[kantseeback]

The top drivers are usually given holes by the other top drivers because it just rubbing each other's back, amateur drivers don't get the same courtesy.

Over a 30 year period at many tracks and post positions?
I have seen the worst of drivers tuck in 3rd or 4th once in a while.

[gh2009]

Sometimes the bad driver's reflexes are too slow to get into a hole when it's there or they're trying to get to the top at all costs.

[getreal]

i agree, as bad of an announcer as he is, hes a complete professional compared to watching him drive a race. Makes guys like verusso, Lee and sheridan look like campbell, o'donnell and Lew Williams.

[Pacer 2]

He's very dangerous driving and probably shouldnt be allowed.

[Brown jug]

pete is a decent race caller, at least appears interested
ray does a great job of education and informing on handicapping and wagering
remember not everyone are experts and cash every race like you fellas
also like the fact he comments after the race and kind of summarizes what happened
what would you prefer, music from the 1980's like most other tracks do with the time between races

[getreal]

yes

[Dingus]

Pete's a below average race caller but he's a million times better at calling a race than he is driving a horse....very dangerous on the track...hung the mile in every race ive ever seen him drive

I rest my case

[kantseeback]

Dave Little says Peter is a Renaissance Man. It takes one to know one.

I would rather have jumbo Dave driving my horse instead of Peter.

[gh2009]

Dave would break the sulky if he sat in it.

[kantseeback]

Dave would break the sulky if he sat in it.

He might be heavier than the horse.
He might lift the horse off the ground if he sat in the bike.

[Harness racer]

You would need a Clydesdale to pull him around, or maybe the whole team of them.   

[kantseeback]

You would need a Clydesdale to pull him around, or maybe the whole team of them.   

Is there a special bike that can be rigged to an elephant?

[Babinga]

Nice call in the 6th fuckwad. I have the 1/3 ex burried...

Sometimes I think Horse Plop = Twilight Zone!  All of the replies to this thread and not one calls out the original poster for this bet!  What are you doing betting a 1-5 shot on top of the clear second choice at 5-1?  What was that exacta paying, even money or odds-on?  Where is the value in that?  Too much bad stuff can happen, especially in a harness race, to bet even money exactas.  Note that I'm not criticizing the poster, just this bet.