Anyone see?

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The Meadowlands handle last nite??

[Trigger]

The Meadowlands handle last nite??

Just a guess, "$5,099,674"

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[pocketrocketwinner]

A usual shitty, caw dominated,  $5 million on their best night of the year. Embarrassing

[Trigger]

A usual shitty, caw dominated,  $5 million on their best night of the year. Embarrassing

Was a lot of CAW bs, I fucking hate that shit. 

Super Chapter & Yo Tillie, and myself lol the worst offended!  2.20 each!   

[pocketrocketwinner]

Was a lot of CAW bs, I fucking hate that shit. 

Super Chapter & Yo Tillie, and myself lol the worst offended!  2.20 each!   

the caws there are consistent. If you watch the track regularly you know those 2 were going to get absolutely hammered in the win pools late and wins bets on either were never an for us retail players from the time of the draw

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Just a guess, "$5,099,674"

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HUGE!

[Harness Racing Revolution]

5.6 million in 2023. Down is a good thing???

[pocketrocketwinner]

5.6 million in 2023. Down is a good thing???

People in this industry tend not to even know what a trend is or why it may be important. They do know, however, exactly how to pat themselves on the back for doing shit work

[Stan durbread]

Was a lot of CAW bs, I fucking hate that shit. 

Super Chapter & Yo Tillie, and myself lol the worst offended!  2.20 each!   

You obviously know nothing about how CAWs operate. Their programs look for good odds.  They ain’t firing at what is realistically a 1/2 favorite. If you were dumb enough to think you would get a good pay back on either one of them. You might want to try slots or scratch offs

[pocketrocketwinner]

You obviously know nothing about how CAWs operate. Their programs look for good odds.  They ain’t firing at what is realistically a 1/2 favorite. If you were dumb enough to think you would get a good pay back on either one of them. You might want to try slots or scratch offs

I agree with what you stated about how they operate. However, it is obvious that someone or some caw wagers very large sums on heavy favorites at the meadowlands. An educated guess is that it is CAW activity that is betting heavy favorites with huge rebates. In the end, if you can't identify who they will bet way before the race starts, you have no shot at the meadowlands.

[Trigger]

You obviously know nothing about how CAWs operate. Their programs look for good odds.  They ain’t firing at what is realistically a 1/2 favorite. If you were dumb enough to think you would get a good pay back on either one of them. You might want to try slots or scratch offs

Stan Turdbred,

If CAWS break even they collect on their negotiated rebates which are usually in the double digits, that's their goal.  Winning good, but not necessary.

Bet a million, break even, make $100,000 on a 10% rebate negotiation.

Bet 2.2 million, get back 2mil, lose 200k wagering, get 220k back on the rebates, profit 20,000.

They deploy multiple strategies.

[Kenny]

I agree with what you stated about how they operate. However, it is obvious that someone or some caw wagers very large sums on heavy favorites at the meadowlands. An educated guess is that it is CAW activity that is betting heavy favorites with huge rebates. In the end, if you can't identify who they will bet way before the race starts, you have no shot at the meadowlands.

This is going on in every aspect involving financial transactions. Companies will buy a stock in one market and sell it in another were the price is a tiny bit higher.  it is done with bitcoin. If I can bet a large amount on every favorite at every track, every day that a computer program tells me to, I can win a consistent amount of money. These people know how much they will win before the bets are ever placed. The computer programs are accurate enough to give them predictable earnings.

[pocketrocketwinner]

This is going on in every aspect involving financial transactions. Companies will buy a stock in one market and sell it in another were the price is a tiny bit higher.  it is done with bitcoin. If I can bet a large amount on every favorite at every track, every day that a computer program tells me to, I can win a consistent amount of money. These people know how much they will win before the bets are ever placed. The computer programs are accurate enough to give them predictable earnings.

Agreed. I'd add an opinion that they also have an information edge at the meadowlands. But that is pure speculation based on lots of observation

[Harness racer]

5.6 million in 2023. Down is a good thing???

Completely agree, all factors of the industry are down.  I’m surprised the usta still shows the economic indicators.  Total wagered down almost 11% from last year.  CAWs making those numbers inflated,  the average gambler wagering totals probably down well over 20%.

[Stan durbread]

This is going on in every aspect involving financial transactions. Companies will buy a stock in one market and sell it in another were the price is a tiny bit higher.  it is done with bitcoin. If I can bet a large amount on every favorite at every track, every day that a computer program tells me to, I can win a consistent amount of money. These people know how much they will win before the bets are ever placed. The computer programs are accurate enough to give them predictable earnings.

At the expected odds on those 2 horses you would need to be right 90% of the time. Maybe 80% factoring rebates. Still not a good option