Sylvia Hanover

[White Rabbit]

You don’t think it’s the driver change???   If a horse dropped 3 seconds with a driver change from Nick Clegg to Dexter Dunn would you also think it wasn’t the driver change?

Last when TT drove . PRC against inferior company, next week Meads against TBJF 5 th by 5
03-AUG-2024   M M   A   15         SY -2   L LIBERTY         M   $202,778   26.3   53.3   1:21.3   1:48   3   4°/2   1/1Q   2/1   2/4H   5/5H   1:49   27.1       $9,632   1.90   TETRICK,TIM A   STEACY,MARK
21-JUL-2024   PRC F   A   7         FT   BARTON         M   $136,986   26.3   53.3   1:21.1   1:48.2   1   3/1H   1/1   1/2   1/2   1/1T   1:48.2   27.1       $66,438   *0.20   TETRICK,TIM A   STEACY,MARK
SH was second week before @ Mohawk too TBJF 49 home 26 Saturday 48 home 26 , no 3 second difference.
With that logic Chantilly would 45 with a drive change

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Last when TT drove . PRC against inferior company, next week Meads against TBJF 5 th by 5

With that logic Chantilly would 45 with a drive change

Bobble getting a dc, and JMac on Chantilly getting a dc is as dumb an argument as they come.  JMac is a top guy in NA.

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Bobble getting a dc, and JMac on Chantilly getting a dc is as dumb an argument as they come.  JMac is a top guy in NA.

This ^^^

So many people still under estimate just how good JMac is.
Top 5 in North America and it's not even an argument.

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This ^^^

So many people still under estimate just how good JMac is.
Top 5 in North America and it's not even an argument.

And before the stat guys come out, nigga's please, I'd take a healthy, focused, motivated Jody Jamieson anytime. 

Shows REAL LOVE to the fans too! 

Stats, even just gobbling up wins and money when you get to the top and you typically get the pick of the litter, there is so much more to not underestimate i.e. relationships on and off the track, savvy, experience, confidence, explosive motivation...the driver / horse connection (symbiosis) that comes naturally to a handful that make them the best drivers in the world, ever.

[AgentQ]

If you think the McClure kid can't drive then you're an idiot. Is he indifferent with some horses, especially the younger stock's first couple starts or an older horse that needs to drop a line to fit where he/she can do, yes he is. But you don't outdrive Sears and company at the Hambo if you don't have a great set of hands and ice water in your veins. I'll admit I don't think he gets along all that well with that mare but I also think that mare might have landed in a certain barn and that had more to do with her showing.

[Calhoun]

IMO, Driver vs Driver debate is over rated.

Take the top 10 money winners in NA and I don't think there's any difference.

In overnights, yes there's a difference but that's always baked into the odds.

jmo

[Mazola]

McClure has been driving home winners at Mohawk lately. He is ok in my books

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If you think the McClure kid can't drive then you're an idiot. Is he indifferent with some horses, especially the younger stock's first couple starts or an older horse that needs to drop a line to fit where he/she can do, yes he is. But you don't outdrive Sears and company at the Hambo if you don't have a great set of hands and ice water in your veins. I'll admit I don't think he gets along all that well with that mare but I also think that mare might have landed in a certain barn and that had more to do with her showing.

If JMac, McNair, Roy get off and he gets on it's a drop, he's a drop on Cullen too, if Henry wasn't an elephant a drop on him as well.

The resume gets you the job, now he has to keep doing it.

I wasn't playing remember when, forget the stats, can he drive, he looks awful out there.

I won't omit him as a first thought.  You can over bet him and we'll get the price on our other horses.

- The Idiot 

[Harness racer]

It JMac and then the rest up there talent wise.  He is worlds better than the rest! 

[Bitter Truth]

The reverse plop jinx is alive and well as McClure just stroked the first two tonight at Mohawk.

[Harness racer]

Crazy how that works! 

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The reverse plop jinx is alive and well as McClure just stroked the first two tonight at Mohawk.

Said the same thing in the Mohawk thread at the same time as you, a little b4 lol! 

https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=80933.0

[wisha roder]

Y'all are ALL 100% correct!!! 

McClueless stayed in Canada and won 1, with 3 of the top 3 drivers out tonight.

Eventually the trainers are going to realize he isn't focused, and listening, the head just bobs up and down like its on a spring! 

Move him to the Mohawk valet parking as an attendant, he wouldn't know the difference!   

Funny you mention his bobble head.  That''s what i always notice about Bob.  Does he have sort of spring in his helmet or does he have a twitch.  Friggin drives me nuts to watch his helmet jiggle up and down.

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Funny you mention his bobble head.  That''s what i always notice about Bob.  Does he have sort of spring in his helmet or does he have a twitch.  Friggin drives me nuts to watch his helmet jiggle up and down.

You notice the head here it is seemingly velcroed to the recliner, the back of it doesn't move forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS336zWT1f8

Seems to only happen when he is sitting, not in post race standing interviews, not moseying around, only sitting, and in the bike, what are you gonna do - tie it down to what?, Bob is free to bob.   

[Checked Up]

It was probably a long ride home Saturday night after they realized how much money was left on the table last year buy allowing Mr.Sit & Steer to drive her!!🤮🤮