Walter Case Jr. at Plainridge

[dougie]

Casey had a couple of wins at Cumberland today. With his success at Plaunridge, he could carve out a decent living. A lot of driving back and forth.

[wizardofoz]

Right now he is in 6th place in the standings and doing just fine!                                                                                   6th place: Case Jr Walter  12.8%    47-6-4-5      $72,500

[dougie]

I agree Wiz!

[rainman2]

If you bypass Case at # 6 with the top 5 taken, who drives for you if you're racing at Plainridge??

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

He's got 11,000 plus wins with probably 85% of them at B and C tracks. Does that make him great? Don't give me the bullshit that he would have done this or he would have done that. You don't have a crystal ball. The fact is he didn't win any signature races which puts him and his stats in the above average category. Very good but not great is his report card. Let me know when he wins a front page race.

[MCR]

He's got 11,000 plus wins with probably 85% of them at B and C tracks. Does that make him great? Don't give me the bullshit that he would have done this or he would have done that. You don't have a crystal ball. The fact is he didn't win any signature races which puts him and his stats in the above average category. Very good but not great is his report card. Let me know when he wins a front page race.

Thank you! About time someone who is realistic.  Yes he's doing OK at ridge but the colony is very weak.  They have good purses that's it.

[Scooteroo]

Tony Morgan has the second most wins of all time and is still doing well at age 66 but has never been considered for the Hall of Fame. He did win the Meadowlands Pace one year and a few stake races, but most were overnight races. Is he as talented as Case, no, but has had a long successful career.

[MCR]

Tony Morgan has the second most wins of all time and is still doing well at age 66 but has never been considered for the Hall of Fame. He did win the Meadowlands Pace one year and a few stake races, but most were overnight races. Is he as talented as Case, no, but has had a long successful career.

I would say Morgan Is more talented than case due to both being simular older age and look at Morgans stats vs Casey

[Scooteroo]

Of course stat wise Morgan's are much better but people will say it's because Case missed so much time but who knows. I think Case probably has more natural ability, but that's just my opinion. I watch Morgan on a daily basis, and he drives like someone in his 40's not 60's.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Tony Morgan has the second most wins of all time and is still doing well at age 66 but has never been considered for the Hall of Fame. He did win the Meadowlands Pace one year and a few stake races, but most were overnight races. Is he as talented as Case, no, but has had a long successful career.

I don't think he won the Meadowlands Pace but he has had a better career than Case. He won a ton of races on a then tough Illinois circuit. You could make the case for him being in the HOF, as 17,000+ wins is amazing. However, he had limited success on the National stage. I believe he won a Breeders Crown race one year but that is about it. The driver that should be in the HOF but for some reason isn't is Ben Webster. The man has driving titles at the three most important racetracks in Harness Racing history and that is Yonkers, Roosevelt and Meadowlands. He also has many grand circuit wins including Hambo and Jug.

[dougie]

In my humble opinion anyone with 10,000 wins on any circuit should be in the HOF. We can all debate that Walter would probably have the most wins of all time if he didn't miss those nine years. But Walter's horrible crime, despite him "serving his time" will ensure he will never get into the HOF. Truly a case of "wasted talent". I'm glad he's doing good at Plainridge.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

In my humble opinion anyone with 10,000 wins on any circuit should be in the HOF. We can all debate that Walter would probably have the most wins of all time if he didn't miss those nine years. But Walter's horrible crime, despite him "serving his time" will ensure he will never get into the HOF. Truly a case of "wasted talent". I'm glad he's doing good at Plainridge.

Most over 10K are but there a few that don't belong. Andy Miller and Peter Wrenn come to mind.

[Bruce Jenner]

    I mean come on man the guy is as washed up as a used rag he looks like 4 miles of bad road what races could he win anymore?

[Scooteroo]

I don't think he won the Meadowlands Pace but he has had a better career than Case. He won a ton of races on a then tough Illinois circuit. You could make the case for him being in the HOF, as 17,000+ wins is amazing. However, he had limited success on the National stage. I believe he won a Breeders Crown race one year but that is about it. The driver that should be in the HOF but for some reason isn't is Ben Webster. The man has driving titles at the three most important racetracks in Harness Racing history and that is Yonkers, Roosevelt and Meadowlands. He also has many grand circuit wins including Hambo and Jug.

I stand corrected, Morgan did not win the Meadowlands Pace, he won the 2006 Woodrow Wilson Pace for 2-year-olds with Fox Valley Barzgar for trainer Tom Harmer.

[Scooteroo]

Most over 10K are but there a few that don't belong. Andy Miller and Peter Wrenn come to mind.

Two drivers not in the Hall of Fame who I think belong are Jackie Mo and Luc Ouellette, and for that matter, other than being involved in that scandal at Freehold a long time ago, George Brennan belongs too.