What % of Monticello horses are on deals?

[Ignorance Is Bliss]

Never robbed an owner in my life. They knew what I charged before their horse came to my barn. And the always has the opportunity to sell or move to a cheaper trainer

Just spoke to Ralph Silvestri Jr. old trainer who confirmed the kid takes deals like the horses he got from Al Annunziata after we busted him out fronting for Fred Bourgault a couple months ago and the owner pulled the horses. And now the grooms are pissed making no money and doing all the work regretting listening to the old man's BS story quitting their jobs in Bullville and Pine Bush. AKA Gaagoots.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

So aside from so called "deals"-----what are trainers charging for the daily rate at Monticello?

Just curious, how many horses are on the grounds now, 250 to 300?

[rainman2]

if you owned your own. if you had halfway decent stock and a little bit of fuel. someone could crush at that place.

You also need the cooperation of your driver to make this happen!!

[Onthefront11]

Stan who are you?  I know a lot of trainers there who like to take advantage of honest owners, it's disgusting and probably why they don't stick around.

[rainman2]

Stan who are you?  I know a lot of trainers there who like to take advantage of honest owners, it's disgusting and probably why they don't stick around.

My current trainer didn’t know me from Adam years ago and he took the challenge of breaking my homebred sight unseen too. A very good trainer(s) and better human beings too!

[Onthefront11]

I would love to meet this guy, I might actually buy some horses, who is it? 

[rainman2]

I would love to meet this guy, I might actually buy some horses, who is it?

Personal message me if you want the name(s) if the individuals.

[Onthefront11]

Message sent, thanks a lot

[Stan durbread]

Stan who are you?  I know a lot of trainers there who like to take advantage of honest owners, it's disgusting and probably why they don't stick around.

Can you name 1 industry where there are not any people that will take advantage of the uneducated. These days if someone doesn’t bother to do their research before getting in business with someone they deserve getting fleeced. That goes both ways. I know plenty of trainers that went bankrupt because owners didn’t pay 💰

[Onthefront11]

This future owner would pay everyone but all you guys at Monticello are bums

[Stan durbread]

This future owner would pay everyone but all you guys at Monticello are bums

I’ve only raced at Monticello a few times in NYSS. It is a cheap track I wouldn’t race in overnights there unless I had an owner with a bad horse that needed to race there and couldn’t fit anywhere else. Just like any other C track. If that future owner would have done just a little homework like look At USTA he would have known what he was dealing with.

[Stan durbread]

The purse structure there is not a big secret

[Stan durbread]

This future owner would pay everyone but all you guys at Monticello are bums

It has been asked here before and I’m curious. If you really know an owner that got cheated by a Monticello trainer. Please ask them what the daily rate was. And you did say that owner would always pay their bill.  So you must know at least one

[Onthefront11]

I know many and most use loser trainers and the winners use a form of EPO and everyone is afraid of that blacksmith

[Stan durbread]

Using a form of EPO at Monticello is a sure way to go broke. I know it is difficult to test for EPO but of the ones that have been caught none are racing cheap overnight horses