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jupiter

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HISA?
« on: February 25, 2025, 07:14:46 PM »
Have they been frozen and fired yet, just a matter of time.

Stan durbread

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Re: HISA?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2025, 07:23:00 PM »
Nope.  Their safety numbers show they are actually doing a job.  Not just a position

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2025, 08:49:16 PM »
No, as a matter of fact, I see the opposite trending. JMHO, they are here to stay, are making progress, getting more effective, and eventually, in one form or another will be the overall governing body (for both t-breds and harness) this sport and industry has long needed.

ferdinand the bull

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2025, 01:33:43 AM »
No, as a matter of fact, I see the opposite trending. JMHO, they are here to stay, are making progress, getting more effective, and eventually, in one form or another will be the overall governing body (for both t-breds and harness) this sport and industry has long needed.

Hisa will be governing harness racing in the near future. Crooked vets and chemist trainers could be in trouble

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2025, 11:06:51 AM »
it is a state by state decision-and apparently breed by breed if I am not mistaken

in the tbreds--both West Virginia and Texas have refused to allow HISA in their state racing business

not sure how it is played out in harness racing

Parx, Presque Isle and Penn National allow HISA, does anyone think Pocono would actually allow HISA in?


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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2025, 11:20:40 AM »
Texas, Louisiana and West Virginia got a favorable outcome in a lawsuit. Still working its way through the appeals process. The tracks have no say in whether they want HISA or not. It will be the regulator in all horse racing in the near future

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2025, 11:28:35 AM »
I have not been following the ongoing status of the pending lawsuits and appeals. However, while some states did get a favorable ruling----one, I believe they were either stays, temporary injunctions, etc.; and two, they were prior to the last legislative revision. Since the FTC (and Congress) revised the legislation and governing authority of HISA, I think that changes and impacts the rulings that the states received.

All things considered, in the end, I do not see a state deciding "we don't want it" and "we won't go along"----because HISA will have the authority and right to enforce it. There are numerous enforcement actions they can take. Didn't they already do this in Texas? I believe Texas received a favorable ruling, but didn't they get their simulcasting signal shut down or something? I don't remember the details. At the end of the day, I think HISA will stand, and eventually, the harness industry will have little to no choice but to play ball.

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2025, 11:34:04 AM »
Texas, Louisiana and West Virginia got a favorable outcome in a lawsuit. Still working its way through the appeals process. The tracks have no say in whether they want HISA or not. It will be the regulator in all horse racing in the near future

very informative--thank you tmbz1

I would expect the deep red states to continue to receive favorable rulings
« Last Edit: February 26, 2025, 11:45:14 AM by Papillon »

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2025, 06:41:45 PM »
Texas, Louisiana and West Virginia got a favorable outcome in a lawsuit. Still working its way through the appeals process. The tracks have no say in whether they want HISA or not. It will be the regulator in all horse racing in the near future

Then the money starts flowing to the regulators.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2025, 07:29:10 PM »
Too little, too late. 11.wp

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2025, 10:31:43 AM »
Anyone who believes HISA will do anything nut make the juice trainers more money is delusional. Taking away most every single basic med that works only leaves what doesn't test.

Remember, horse racing and integrity should never appear in the same sentence.
Horses make the humans, not the other way around.

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2025, 10:57:09 AM »
Anyone who believes HISA will do anything nut make the juice trainers more money is delusional. Taking away most every single basic med that works only leaves what doesn't test.

Remember, horse racing and integrity should never appear in the same sentence.
Correct. The only way to stop drugs is for law enforcement to commence surveillance, wire tapping and undercover actions which will never happen on a wide scale, as harness racing isn't a priority. Like you posted, drugs that are undetectable are UNDETECTABLE. The advanced testing that is being implemented will find nothing that the 30% winners are using. It will catch the poor slob trying to just get a check to pay his incoming feed bill. The cheaters have won. Take all the wasted money trying to fight the inevitable and use it to find homes for the poor horses.

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Re: HISA?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2025, 10:34:19 PM »
HISA will destroy all horse racing in time.  You're a fool if you think otherwise.

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Re: HISA?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2025, 10:53:34 PM »
I’ll answer it this way: 
I basically stopped watching tbred races a year or 2 ago because of all the breakdowns during the race.  I had a constant feeling of dread each race.
Since HISA fully took over, I started watching again and haven’t seen any breakdowns (yet).  Hope I didn’t put an evil eye on by saying that.

 

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