DELAWARE Hearings this Thursday

[Liberty Bell]

No one can win at 36% over an extended period of time and we're only talking about 73 starts. His winning % of 21% at Dover last year is probably more representative of his winning % which is a little on the high side but not unreasonable. I don't know him personally and he could be cheating, but sometimes people are presumed guilty because they're successful in their chosen field. Just like when a MLB player has a big HR year, the first thing you hear is he must be using PEDS.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

No one can win at 36% over an extended period of time and we're only talking about 73 starts. His winning % of 21% at Dover last year is probably more representative of his winning % which is a little on the high side but not unreasonable.

OK, I'll agree with that. But if this ends up being over an extended period of time---let's say 3 months---no way, I am not buying it. I don't care how much turnover there is. I don't care about the skewing or distortion of numbers, not over 3 months. A 12 horse barn? Racehorses? How many starts are we talking about in 3 months? 100 to 120? More? Very tough to buy.

[Liberty Bell]

I'm suspicious of everybody but without proof, we don't know for sure, even though everyone on here seems to be. Doing it over an extended period of time for a condition horse would be difficult because he'd be moving up in class and eventually be overmatched. He had a good trotter last year named The Fast Lane, he too won alot of races in a row, maybe 10 or 12 before he finally lost. He came back this year and has had an okay year, but he's been facing much tougher competition, so the wins have been tougher to come by.

[Harness racer]

What about when Tony shows up at the barn and they close all the doors, even in the summer?  Seems a little odd doesn't it?

[Liberty Bell]

Just curious, how do you know these things?

[Harness racer]

Seen it...now what actually goes on inside is pure speculation.  Definitely gives the appearance of shady doings!   

[Way to go]

Just curious, how do you know these things?

[Way to go]

Wait.....I thought for sure GH2009 knew everything....... ..

[Liberty Bell]

Well, you thought wrong, serves you right for thinking! Unlike alot of people on here, I'm not infatuated with who's juicing even though I have my suspicions about certain trainers. If their horses race well on a consistent basis, is it because it's being juiced on a regular basis or because it's in good form? The thing I don't know is where everyone seems to be getting their first-hand information concerning trainers who are juicing and Tony Morgan's involvement. Who let the cat out of the bag? Is it fact or suspicion?

[Way to go]

Wake up EXPERT OF THE WORLD.....Tony Morgan is THE TRUNK DOCTOR.......OMG

[Liberty Bell]

When you have some factual evidence in writing to back it up I'll believe you and give you full credit for being the genius you think you are, until then keep up the attacks, I love messing with a know it all like you!

[Way to go]

Look in the mirror

[simplify]

stop with the "when you have factual evidence". You can't be this dense.

[Way to go]

Amen

[Liberty Bell]

All I want to see is some proof, but nobody ever comes up with it. You may very well be right but I'm not going to take yours or anyone else's word for it without something to back it up. If you think I'm dense, then so be it. Frankly, I could care less who's juicing their horses and who's supplying it.