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Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« on: September 25, 2024, 12:29:14 PM »
If you only drove for these horse drugging trainers who should be in prison with Rene Allard and Nick Surick. And the USTA looks the other way with these guys.    How may driving wins would you have ??

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2024, 12:35:30 PM »
you would be the leading driver in the country.

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2024, 12:39:52 PM »
Thank you Jenny from the block. Finally someone smart on this site

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2024, 07:30:37 PM »
Anyone can win on these horses. Biggest joke is that micky Burke was leading trainer for the first half of the year. Just shows that anyone can do it with drugs.

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2024, 07:43:10 PM »
Ron Burke decides when he takes his days--they are always in January and February

he is El Chapo on house arrest-still calling the shots

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2024, 08:13:22 PM »
Ron Burke decides when he takes his days--they are always in January and February

he is El Chapo on house arrest-still calling the shots
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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2024, 08:30:16 PM »
BINGO tmbz1 tmbz1

As part of the suspension's rewuirements, Burke was not allowed ro rig or train any horses or enter any racing grounds.

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2024, 08:41:16 PM »
And the EASTER BUNNY is real

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2024, 09:47:47 PM »
Burke

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2024, 11:51:40 PM »
Does any of them care for the animal?

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2024, 10:32:06 AM »
I hate to say it, but at a certain point, everyone reaches the so called vomit point. It's just enough and you can't take it any more. I have zero expectations from YR, and even less for the entire state of PA; until HISA is in effect. However, and this has long been my problem with Gural, I expected him to be "harder" on some of the "super" trainers. Did he pick and choose and sweep things under the rug? No, I don't think so. However, I think he was more lenient than he should and could have been.

Track ownership/management has long avoided throwing out trainers who have large #'s of horses. There is a perception they help fill races, can give you a horse to make races go, can add to fuller fields, and so on. It's one of those myths that become a reality. Like buy term and invest the difference. In theory it works, but it the real world something different happens. The reality is, if Gural threw out a major trainer-----and while he could without cause, he should definitely have it and have it well prepared, documented, etc.-----it would in fact hurt. It might cause a disruption in filling some races. HOWEVER, in about two to four weeks, more people would start racing there. As soon as people find out they no longer have to race against so and so-----they will flock there and with competitive horses. Now you have 4 trainers each with a 20 claimer, instead of one trainer with 4. Now you have more owners who will be enticed to race knowing they won't have to race against so and so on. That was the result you saw in NY with Rick Dutrow. Personally, I think Gural is more of a savior than people think. If you don't think so, then at a minimum he's a catalyst for change, for the better, for improvement, etc. Without him there'd be no voice. I couldn't care less if he complains. He's entitled.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2024, 10:56:41 AM »
agreed, there needs to be some short term pain  for long term gain
 but who is willing to take the pain
you need to ban some trainers which will mean a shortage for a while but longer term other trainers will buy more horses and hopefully bring in new or semi new owners if they think they can be competitive
lets face it right now especially in overnights, when the entries come out you are praying you are not in against 2 burke horses among others

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Re: Ron Burke. Travis Alexander. Per Emblom
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2024, 11:31:11 AM »
I think there's a reason that super trainers shoot 25% or 30% at one track, but shoot 15% at another. I also think that at a certain point, in the claiming game, the intimidation factor comes into play. When you have 4 to 8 in a class, and you can race 20k horses for 10k you are going to win a lot of races and you don't have to throw everything at them like Servis and Navarro did.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2024, 11:43:21 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2024, 12:23:29 PM »
BOTTOM LINE IS IF IS THEY CAN BASICALLY PUT MOST ANYONE UP AND STILL WIN. BURKE HAS SO MANY HORSES ITS ALMOST A MONOPOLY PUT A LIL HELP FROM THE VET IN THERE THEY ARE HARD TO BEAT.
THE OTHERS JUST HAVE GAS. EVENTUALLY IT WILL CATCH UP TO THEM UNLESS THEY KEEP APPEALING AND GETTING SPLIT SAMPLES AND CLAIM CONTAMINATION. BUT THEY LET THE SPORT GET TO THAT. THEY COULD FIX IT IF THE WANTED TO.  THEY DONT WANT TO.

 

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