Papi Grad

[JT]

She just suffered her first lifetime loss.. She went to the back out of 7 hole and ended up 2nd to a Burke horse driven by Yannick named Rose who has now won 4 of 5 starts. The mile was in 150.2.which set a track and stakes record. Thoughts anyone?

[shotgunner]

Filly that beat her has been electric at the Red Mile. Just too far back to catch Rose, went a good mile.

[JT]

Filly that beat her has been electric at the Red Mile. Just too far back to catch Rose, went a good mile.

I think she went a good mile as well probably 151 flat. Why gut her now when there are bigger fish to fry in a month or two. I also think a few have caught up to her as the season has gone on.

[shotgunner]

I think she went a good mile as well probably 151 flat. Why gut her now when there are bigger fish to fry in a month or two. I also think a few have caught up to her as the season has gone on.

I think the bigger concern going forward isn’t this mile. I think it was smart to take her off and let her come off a helmet. The issue is that Rose was relegated to the mid level Kentucky stake’s because of looksgoodinaloulo u. Rose easily broke the track record at night with tepid summer temperatures.

[The Unstable]

She was sitting probably 12 off at one point and paced 53.3 back. Race was over at the 1/4 pole. She had zero chance to win race. I doubt she will be that far back in final. As always post helps and having another Burke horse in front of her was no help either. They are both very nice. Toscanos mare was unimpressive after her super first time start two back.

[Brown jug]

you think you have a nice horse and then see you are in against one or two from the burke brigade and they pace out of their skin and leave your horse in the dust

[Frankie T]

Thoughts anyone?

Yannick Gingras Ron Burke

[Laag]

remember Geocentric was going to be the Meadowlands Pace favorite based on how strong she started...i would slow the train on Papi Grad

[Bitter Truth]

Along those lines, there is filly in against the boys in The Travers today
 at 'The Spa'. Torpedo Anna. $1.25M purse

[Harness racer]

I think she can win that race!

[carl baldwin]

5 lb. weight difference.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I think she can win that race!

Good call! You got one hell of a run for your money! Impressive race!

[White Rabbit]

I just watched replay, if I owed her there would be a driver change and maybe trainer change if I didn’t like trainer response to driver change.
Terrible driver, she the best push off the car. Trainer was interviewed last week and he raved about how quickly she is off the car. That’s one of her tools use it

[shotgunner]

I just watched replay, if I owed her there would be a driver change and maybe trainer change if I didn’t like trainer response to driver change.
Terrible driver, she the best push off the car. Trainer was interviewed last week and he raved about how quickly she is off the car. That’s one of her tools use it

I mean you can leave with a horse every week. It's dumb, but you can. I'd bet good money Carter said take her off the gait and let her come off a helmet. When the real money is on the line she'll be going forward.

[PineHurstPacer]

I just watched replay, if I owed her there would be a driver change and maybe trainer change if I didn’t like trainer response to driver change.
Terrible driver, she the best push off the car. Trainer was interviewed last week and he raved about how quickly she is off the car. That’s one of her tools use it

she's a 2 yo

goal isn't to win every race, it's to win the biggest races