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polish jola
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W A Stalbaum
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December 31, 2023, 06:04:46 AM »
I was just checking results, and as I came upon Cal-Expo, I noticed that every horse this guy drives or trains is beaten by a mile!! Why, if his horses can't compete at a place like this, why do they accept his entries?? Is it just to fill their small fields?? This guy is an auto toss, every race he is in!! I think, he's only gotten a few minor checks!!
Anyway, he stinks and his horses are way over classed or just awful!! Plus, they race 40 times a year!!
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Raging pace
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December 31, 2023, 08:02:00 AM »
I just looked at the results from cal expo. 3 horses lose by total of 58 lengths and another horse by distance. Clearly they shouldn’t have been on the track. Clearly they haven’t been jogging or training these horses. This kids father is Larry staulbaum from Saratoga. He sends everything down the road, guts them every race. Larry did a interview once and said his horses do not get a day off, their day off is the day the horse races he said. What a idiot ! Kid must have learned from his dad. Shameful . Poor horses.
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polish jola
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December 31, 2023, 08:14:11 AM »
He did get a 5th on Friday, but the other 2 he raced were 8th by 15, and 8th distanced!! How does he survive?? California ain't cheap to stay in!!!
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polish jola
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December 31, 2023, 08:25:34 AM »
Last Tuesday 5 horses in, 1 check, a 5th, but this horse was trained by his sister! The other 4 were 6th, 7th, 8th and 10th!! Pitiful performance!! Nobody can survive at that rate!!
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polish jola
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December 31, 2023, 08:31:22 AM »
I looked up the Trainer standings at Cal, Winter has 28 starts with no wins or seconds, but he does have 3 3rds!! Total purses $7438!! That averages out to less than $300 per horse each start!! This kid should be working the counter at Mickey D's not training horses!!
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Raging pace
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December 31, 2023, 08:35:17 AM »
Winter Asher staulbaum is not new to the business, he’s been around horses all his life and been training and driving for quite a few years , maybe he should stick to grooming or jogging horses for his someone else.
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Yonkers1A
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December 31, 2023, 08:43:35 AM »
Don’t you guys know how most trainers make their money, a lot of rookies here
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Raging pace
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December 31, 2023, 09:15:32 AM »
I’m not rookie idiot, was in the business over 40 years, I’ll forget more than you will ever know. Made lots of lots of money from great training and knowing what to do, not buy using drugs like lots of trainers. Would give my horses a week off every 6 weeks or so,not run them into the ground. Had lots of horses that would race at 10 and 11 yrs old cause I took care of the properly. Good try buddy.
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polish jola
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December 31, 2023, 09:36:35 AM »
No rookie here, either!! If my trainer was that bad, plus he couldn't drive a dead fly--he'd be long gone!! Just was wondering how he survives?? Maybe he does have a 2nd job at the Golden Arches! Just saying!! He surely only trains dad's castoffs!!
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Locked in with pace
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December 31, 2023, 09:50:03 AM »
Cal Expo pays you to race there.
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shamrock stable
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December 31, 2023, 11:35:43 AM »
I haven't looked but sometimes trainers use real races as training miles depending on the draw,class,and horse.
With that said I know a few people who learned from Larry. They do very very well when they want. When the price is right on the tote board. Maybe the kid is just bad. And he does have a lot of older aged horses. He may blow up the tote board one time and pay for his entire Meet. The stalbaum training tree is very sharp. Not saying its legal or right. But they do well.
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shamrock stable
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December 31, 2023, 11:42:11 AM »
The bad thing is the public has no idea the the trainer may tell the driver "hey buddy just go around the track. Don't pull the horse. Sit in. I'll put you back up when he is good.
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bass park
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December 31, 2023, 01:09:06 PM »
He was up here for the fairs and he got fined and then suspended for whipping the crap out his horses. Then he got fined $750 at cumberland for entering 3 horses and not showing up. He got fined a grand and got suspended for 3 days and he was only up here about a month. He is trouble.
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Mailbox Money
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December 31, 2023, 04:26:07 PM »
He's not afraid to pull first up when he's double digits and an outside post! Ya also have to take fact that Poppa Bomber had some of these things that he is racing. When he is asked how he wants his horses, he must reply "Gutted and Fried!"
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shamrock stable
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December 31, 2023, 06:36:46 PM »
EXTRA CRISPY
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