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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2023, 04:34:46 AM »
The USTA article cut this out of their report. 'In total, 313 yearlings were sold on Wednesday for gross sales of $5,957,000, averaging $19,032.'  ------------For once the little guys got the proper prices of what these were worth.  Lazarus N averaged only $7471 on 17 sales over the 3 days, which is less than the stud fee was!  Captain Crunch averaged $21,815 over 27 horses sold over the 3 days.  Greenshoe average $24,262 over 42 horses sold. We see where this is heading with these 3 sires.

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2023, 12:13:47 PM »
Bill Pollock about Andrew Harris and his relationship with him:  “A little more than a year ago, Bruce Areman, who has been my friend for around 35 years approached me and suggested I get into the horse business with him and a young trainer that he highly recommended named Andrew Harris,” Pollock said. “He said that Andrew is among the finest of people that he knows in or out of the business. The three of us joined forces. I found that Bruce’s assessment of Andrew was spot on.”

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« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2023, 12:18:22 PM »
How much pressure does the responsibility of training $6,090,000 worth of yearlings incur?
“I don’t look upon it as pressure at all. I think of it as a miraculous privilege. I have been entrusted with 20 of the best bred and well conformed yearlings in the world. Steve Elliott once said that the most important job in being a successful horse trainer is not to screw things up. That is what I also feel is the highest responsibility in being a good horse trainer. I will do my utmost to do what is best with each and every one of these colts and fillies.”

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2023, 12:26:50 PM »
They said he got a piece of all of them. Love to know the deal he's made.

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« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2023, 01:50:50 PM »
How is a working horse trainer able to afford that kind of investment? HARRIS:  “To be absolutely honest I’m not and can’t. But Bill worked it out so that I am able to share in the trials and tribulations and hopefully the rewards of horse ownership."

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« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2023, 02:59:39 PM »
How is a working horse trainer able to afford that kind of investment? HARRIS:  “To be absolutely honest I’m not and can’t. But Bill worked it out so that I am able to share in the trials and tribulations and hopefully the rewards of horse ownership."


HE WAS GIFTED 10 TO 15 PERCENT OF EACH HORSE MAYBE EVEN 25 PERCENT

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« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2023, 03:10:49 PM »


HE WAS GIFTED 10 TO 15 PERCENT OF EACH HORSE MAYBE EVEN 25 PERCENT

GOOD FOR ANDY
In exchange for training bills I’m assuming

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« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2023, 03:36:38 PM »
Couldn't do it for training bills, he's not going to have much income if doesn't have the race horses. How much you rhink he has in the bank?

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2023, 03:42:34 PM »
20 horses will not be trained for the next 8 months free of charge in exchange for a small piece next summer of each.

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2023, 03:43:24 PM »


HE WAS GIFTED 10 TO 15 PERCENT OF EACH HORSE MAYBE EVEN 25 PERCENT

GOOD FOR ANDY
How would you know this and you gave 3 amounts which vary a lot once the horses start to race

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« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2023, 04:05:26 PM »
20 horses will not be trained for the next 8 months free of charge in exchange for a small piece next summer of each.
There are a lot of guy’s willing to train for a piece of the yearlings. Most are doing it on 5-20k yearlings

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2023, 01:01:01 AM »
A total of 388 horses and stallion shares were sold on Thursday with gross sales of $15,059,000, providing an average of $38,812 per horse / share sold. Last year, 273 horses or shares were sold during the fourth session with total sales topping $10.1 million.

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2023, 10:49:25 AM »
Harris is a good horseman. He's shown he can race racehorses, overnight stock, racehorse barn, etc. He got a strong background coming from Bill Robinson and Casie Coleman's barns. However, this is a completely different ball game. Apples and bowling balls. Stepping up and buying major, high-priced, grand-circuit horses is very, very different. He has only been on his own since around 2015, and even then he just had racehorses. He's developing some experience with this and he'll get better. Buying that kind of stock not only takes being a good horseman, trainer, and so forth, but you also need to know how to manage a horse, develop and manage a campaign, prepping a horse and getting him to peak for the big paychecks, and so on. Now add buying $5mm or whatever in babies, and that too is a totally different type of skill set. Couple all this with the owner being a newbie. Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2023, 12:32:04 PM »
The guy who started Armitage Farms hasn’t exactly tip-toed into the breeding business.

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Re: Harrisburg, here they come!
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2023, 02:56:04 PM »
How would you know this and you gave 3 amounts which vary a lot once the horses start to race

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