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Fuguzzi

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2023, 10:50:56 PM »
One of the top Standarbred farriers (now retired ) who used to do Tbred specialty work like quartercrack patches as well, told me today when I read to him some of the comments on here by phone said "Any blacksmith who needs to use a gauge after shoeing the same horse 2 or 3 times, should find something else to do" His words, not mine, so don't jump on me. just thought I'd add to the convo.

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2023, 11:12:27 PM »
One of the top Standarbred farriers (now retired ) who used to do Tbred specialty work like quartercrack patches as well, told me today when I read to him some of the comments on here by phone said "Any blacksmith who needs to use a gauge after shoeing the same horse 2 or 3 times, should find something else to do" His words, not mine, so don't jump on me. just thought I'd add to the convo.
Hank Joseph, who I consider one of the best always used a gauge.

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2023, 11:20:27 PM »
One of the top Standarbred farriers (now retired ) who used to do Tbred specialty work like quartercrack patches as well, told me today when I read to him some of the comments on here by phone said "Any blacksmith who needs to use a gauge after shoeing the same horse 2 or 3 times, should find something else to do" His words, not mine, so don't jump on me. just thought I'd add to the convo.
Sounds like Ian McKinley

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2023, 11:41:12 PM »
I never heard of hank Joseph. Ian McKinley I am definitely aware of, but no, not him.

Guy i spoke to had other things to say about toes and angles and racing barefoot. Nothing work sharing on here.

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2023, 11:44:13 PM »
I used John Santoro/ Billy K, Jerry Gold and if I had to Roy Smith  btw

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2023, 11:44:24 PM »
I never heard of hank Joseph. Ian McKinley I am definitely aware of, but no, not him.

Guy i spoke to had other things to say about toes and angles and racing barefoot. Nothing work sharing on here.
Hank had a shop at M1 from about 1987 until the barn area closed. His shop was in between barns 12 and 13

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2023, 11:45:47 PM »
I was outta there in 1985 - grooming in those days = I was in 13B

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2023, 08:09:28 AM »
I was always a fan of the double gaited ones...then you don't have to choose, you can go either way.

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2023, 12:18:14 PM »
My  favorite trot drivers , in no particular order   Campbell, LaChance. Patterson jr, Herve, Hennessey, Pierce
Jeff Gregory won a lot of trot races for me. I thought he was one of the best trot drivers.

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2023, 12:22:45 PM »
Absolutely. I would say he was a superior trot driver and NYSS driver than Clint Galbraith, but you know what'll happen.

I just listed my top/top but Jeff Greogry always handled a trotter well

few others that were good - Howard Parker, Mickey McNichol, Zeke up at Monti and Ted Wing

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2023, 09:03:03 AM »
i worked for 2 different trainers one used a riding horse blacksmith who knew nothing about angles,toe length ect the other had a 80 horse stable and the blacksmith was not allowed to pull shoes off unless he was there to watch both men where very sucsessful

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Re: Training a Trotter vs a Pacer
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2023, 09:44:48 AM »
I went to the blacksmith shop with my horses as often as time allowed. if not me, my best groom. Never were they dropped off and  left alone.

 

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