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Fuguzzi

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If not me, thee
« on: October 21, 2023, 02:16:11 PM »
Asking of fellow trainers. Who, among your colleagues did you admire most? Mine were Robert McIntosh, Bruce Saunders, Gene Riegle, the Blair Burgess and the Kopas outfit...

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2023, 03:58:42 PM »
Asking of fellow trainers. Who, among your colleagues did you admire most? Mine were Robert McIntosh, Bruce Saunders, Gene Riegle, the Blair Burgess and the Kopas outfit...
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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2023, 04:15:27 PM »
 tmbz1 Right behind my crew.

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2023, 04:59:18 PM »
Jimmy Cruise -- race horses -- Doug Ackerman -- stake horses -- the father not the son.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2023, 05:24:36 PM »
I was very fortunate to be able to spend much time with Jimmy Cruise when they all had to move to YR   He was driven every day by John Harms Jr.

Pardner used to tell me how guys would urinate on their horses legs as a natural astringent

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2023, 06:06:08 PM »
I can believe that. Many different types of concoctions to keep one sound. Rumor was he learned a lot from Native Americans. I also believe he was one of the first to swim horses.

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2023, 06:30:36 PM »
He was. I think he swam some at a place called Winner's Circle farm on the island somewhere. Run by a guy named Jim Maddock. They had a swimming against the current device there.

Jimmy was the first O/T/D in history to win a 50K overnight race. It was at RR  late 40s

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2023, 07:58:44 PM »
They are not really my colleagues, or contemporaries, but rather my idols ever since I was a teenager.
Although I have driven in races with each one.
I was the kid and they the master.
The two Hall of Fame Dels that did it all.
They owned, trained, drove, and bred horses.
They each owned a farm with a training track, where they owned stallions, mares, and babies.
Both very active in racing assoc.
One Del built The Meadows.
The other had the plans drawn up and started to build Blackhawk Downs until a major backer backed out.
Thats Del Miller and Del Insko.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2023, 08:03:31 PM by Meadow Ford »
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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Re: If not me, thee
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2023, 08:02:45 PM »
Only problem is they were diametric opposites as people. One from what i heard, the other from what I saw up close. But yours is always a top opinion on here. Their talent and horsemanship remains unquestioned.

 

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