1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands

[Fuguzzi]

Jimmy Allen  Joe Ricco jr    Johnny Desimone   Ronnie Ingrassia    Joe Romano    Del Biccum

[Fuguzzi]

almost forgot John Gilmour and Larry Rolla

[Superfecta]

Jimmy Allen  Joe Ricco jr    Johnny Desimone   Ronnie Ingrassia    Joe Romano    Del Biccum

Marvin Maker   John and George Gilmour   Cat Manzi   Jimmy Marohn

Dels Comet   
Bomber Bill
Hi Hope Rick   

[Fuguzzi]

good ones   Marvin Maker was one weird dude   

[Fuguzzi]

Of course alot guys passed thru on their way to better thins John Patterson jr   Walter Case  Luc Ouelltte   Gary mosher

[Superfecta]

good ones   Marvin Maker was one weird dude

Did you know the tall guy that sat in the green box that was adjacent to the restaurant. I think his name was Steve. He bet for John Gilmour and Dave Marshall.
He would whisper to the teller so nobody should hear his bets and he had a 300-400 pound friend that would stand behind him when he bet to get some distance from the other players.

[Superfecta]

Of course alot guys passed thru on their way to better thins John Patterson jr   Walter Case  Luc Ouelltte   Gary mosher

Absolutely. That was their minor league. Lucien Fontaine and Carmine drove there for a short time.

[Fuguzzi]

Did the guy have very curly hair   rather thin and pale for his height   looked jewish?     I thjnk the huge guy had dark hair slicked back

[Senator Blutarsky]

Absolutely. That was their minor league. Lucien Fontaine and Carmine drove there for a short time.

Ron Marsh Jr.
Jimmy "buried 3rd on rail" Marohn

2 losers, burnt over 50 billion dollars!   

[Fuguzzi]

Did you know the tall guy that sat in the green box that was adjacent to the restaurant. I think his name was Steve. He bet for John Gilmour and Dave Marshall.
He would whisper to the teller so nobody should hear his bets and he had a 300-400 pound friend that would stand behind him when he bet to get some distance from the other players.

Dave Marshall was real trash and an angry and sometimes violent man   but his brother john Marshall a respected and very good horseman from New Englandb   they wore totally different colors

[Superfecta]

Did the guy have very curly hair   rather thin and pale for his height   looked jewish?     I thjnk the huge guy had dark hair slicked back

yes, curly hair. Maybe thin but standing next to a big fat guy can make you look thin. I would see these guys with John Gilmour and Dave Marshall exchanging money early in the morning at the Round Robin across the road from the track.

[Fuguzzi]

Yup  I know exactly who you mean     Do you remember a guy downstairs at YR and RR who looked just like Rod Stewart  always had flashy cowboy boots on and 2 or 3 girls on his arm?

[wizardofoz]

Getting the hot pretzels on the charcoal grill outside the exit doors after the last race at Roosevelt is a classic memory of that time.  I also remember a new driver/trainer decades ago at Monticello one day when I was there that shipped in a horse named Derby's Gent who won 21 of 22 races I think out of town.  That driver was John Campbell and the rest is history. --------Campbell said another horse was more responsible for setting him on a course to becoming the most successful money-winning driver in the sport’s history ($296 million and counting). “The one that I raced against the top horses at a young age was Derbys Gent… Derbys Gent was the first time I went to Roosevelt. I was 20 or 21 years old, I think,” Campbell said. “We were racing at Monticello and he had won his way out of Monticello and they invited us down for just a special free-for-all. Then he raced against Rambling Willie and Handle With Care in the Provincial Cup at Windsor. He gave me a chance to see racing at the highest level.”   

[Fuguzzi]

Getting the hot pretzels on the charcoal grill outside the exit doors after the last race at Roosevelt is a classic memory of that time.  I also remember a new driver/trainer decades ago at Monticello one day when I was there that shipped in a horse named Derby's Gent I believe who won 21 of 22 races I think out of town.  That driver was John Campbell and the rest is history. --------Campbell said another horse was more responsible for setting him on a course to becoming the most successful money-winning driver in the sport’s history ($296 million and counting). “The one that I raced against the top horses at a young age was Derbys Gent… Derbys Gent was the first time I went to Roosevelt. I was 20 or 21 years old, I think,” Campbell said. “We were racing at Monticello and he had won his way out of Monticello and they invited us down for just a special free-for-all. Then he raced against Rambling Willie and Handle With Care in the Provincial Cup at Windsor. He gave me a chance to see racing at the highest level.”    greatv info

[Superfecta]

Yup  I know exactly who you mean     Do you remember a guy downstairs at YR and RR who looked just like Rod Stewart  always had flashy cowboy boots on and 2 or 3 girls on his arm?

Yes. A lot of characters at those tracks. One guy I remember always standing at the top of the grandstand with a clipboard yelling and screaming when he would hit a race.