Author Topic: Skill or luck. What's more important to get these babies to the races?  (Read 4257 times)

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Seems every trainer has their own method of training them down to get them to the races. But a lot of babies don't make it due to injury, etc.
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There is obviously skill involved but luck plays a bigger part.  If any of these trainers think its all them they are confused.  All the trainers have horses the bought that don't turn out to be any good that they thought would be good or they wouldn't have bought them.  Anymore most horses are pretty natural and can get to qualifying time pretty easily you have no idea which ones are going to continue to progress or level off.

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To many press on as spring arrives. With speed comes soreness. Alot of folks aren't willing to give time off to heal and small setbacks turn into bigger problems with gait and attitude. I'd rather miss a week or two in early spring than an entire summer!

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I say mostly luck..cuz actually only 10-15% make a profit and skill can't fix everything that can go wrong.
 

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I stick with trainers with 20 to 25 horses. I have more of a success rate for my type of yearlings (25 - 50,000  SS programs) than with the survival of the fittest type. just get a trainer who has the same philosophy  as you about when its time to go on or back off.  I always have the last word.

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To many press on as spring arrives. With speed comes soreness. Alot of folks aren't willing to give time off to heal and small setbacks turn into bigger problems with gait and attitude. I'd rather miss a week or two in early spring than an entire summer!
I heard one trainer is already at 2:15 with his babies. That seems awful fast this time of the year. But he has trained a horse of the year and some nice grand circuit horses. Can't argue with that.
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I stick with trainers with 20 to 25 horses. I have more of a success rate for my type of yearlings (25 - 50,000  SS programs) than with the survival of the fittest type. just get a trainer who has the same philosophy  as you about when its time to go on or back off.  I always have the last word.
I agree. You really wonder if these high end trainers with the large stables are worth their training fees.
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Heard Burke was in 15, 2wks ago.

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Heard Burke was in 15, 2wks ago.
I would think 15 in Florida on a mile track might be equal to higher times on a smaller track up north.
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Nobody in Florida is at 215

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Most between 230 and 225

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My trainer said he talked to two very well know trainers on the east side of Florida and both in 225. Not Burkes. But was told another top tier trainer was in 215 which we scratched are heads why.
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My trainer said he talked to two very well know trainers on the east side of Florida and both in 225. Not Burkes. But was told another top tier trainer was in 215 which we scratched are heads why.
Let's see where they're at August throughout October when they get paid

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100% luck worked for some large colt stables its all about the numbers

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most can race at  2 but few are great   jmo

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Let's see where they're at August throughout October when they get paid

Guess they won’t be around then if they miss the Mark! Most babies require time, patience and knowledge. Anyone can get lucky but when you shoot blanks you always come up with nothing. Right Ferdinand?

 

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