What wood you do

[LUCPARK]

Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional

[Parked]

 Badmouth him daily on plop

[chowhound]

Take a ball bat to the piece of filth.

[panhunter]

With proof get him lifetime ban!

[jupiter]

I agree with the ball bat. But a ball pein hammer on each of his fingers and toes seems to be better, and tattoo my horses name on his forehead. He'd live with it every day. 

[MCR]

Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional

I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals. 

[Open bridle]

Only use trainers you completely trust 100% who puts the horse's welfare first. Not the trainers who puts winning first to the detriment of the horse.

[Mazola]

I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

Are you sniffing glue or something?

[jupiter]

Didn't mean for them to die, accidents happen, so it's ok for the dead horses. MCR you must be in a fing dream world, NO EXCUSE

[Harness racer]

I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

You are a breath of fresh air to the forum.  We were running low on idiots!  Just because they didn't walk up and shoot the horse in the face doesn't make it ok asshole!  You are a special kind of stupid and I hope SCM reads this and gives you a talking to.

[dinkadoo]

What percentage of owners --- didn't know that Surick or the Tbred guys were gassing ?

I would say 80-90% of owners knew these guys had something. And they loved every minute of it winning races, cashing tickets, getting purse checks and taking their picture with friends in the winners circle.

And if they say they would like to rough anyone up -- they're a damn hypocrite.

Surick got caught on a wire tap talking about 6 dead horses.  How many really was it --- directly juiced by the main traffickers or those who bought the drugs and used on their barn.  when -- if at anytime -- will the next wave of trainers get busted ?? or is this a black eye that will get swept under the rug ?

[Harness racer]

Doesn't everyone remember the video of the guy referring to Navaro as "juiceman"?  That guy isn't the only one who knew!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4wm0DhlUOJA

[Trott]

To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.      Hey MCR, How do you sit up with a back bone like that?

[kooter for hipin]

I don't think anyone killed or kills a horse intentionally.  Now do they administer stuff they shouldn't for their own greed.... Yes absolutely.... With this being said I WOULD ASSUME at no point did they ever give the horse a drug with the intention of killing them.  Now when they did kill one that should of been the reason to stop whatever it was they were using or doing.  To answer the question AS an owner I would probably never do business with the trainer ever again.  Now we just remember accidents can happen obviously we know with these guys it was no accident they were careless and didn't give two shits about the animals.

Actually, "they" have "killed" many horses. When I was actively racing in the late 60's thru 80's, the economy was great and people were paying huge prices for yearlings even by today's standards. Well, when high priced yearlings or even some overnights went bust, they became victims of "Jewish Lightning", not meant to be an anti-semetic term. Since horses have "0" impedance to electricity, when a thunder storm came calling, the horses was taken out of the barn to one of the paddocks. A12 volt car battery was hooked to the horse, mostly the lip, and then to a ground and the horse died instantly. The death was then blamed on lightening. This worked for maybe two years or so before insurance companies got hip. But there's always another scam out there as you probably already know or some, maybe not.

[panhunter]

Let’s ask the question
What wood u do if one of these
Convicted guys killed your horse

And u found out

It was intentional

I’d ask Brian Boitano what he would do!