SHOULD DRIVERS BE ALLOWED TO OWN HORSES?

[bond]

A friend of mine was going to claim a horse owned by a drivers wife. He was told if you do that you will be blackballed by other drivers-your horses will either get stiffed or get "brutal trips".
Also these horses never seem to get "roughed up"+ never get claimed-ie get every chance every start.

IMHO-drivers/family owning horses is BS and should be banned.

[LUCPARK]

if they pay for horse

whats the problem

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lots of drivers own horses as well as many trainers

its business

[Dave]

Lucpark, you conveniently ignore bond's point.

[Red4455]

I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.

[FirstUpFrom8Hole]

Why would a driver blackball someone because they claimed another drivers horse? Why should they care? You might piss off the trainer you're claiming from but thats part of the business.

[LUCPARK]

I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.

U HAVE A PROBLEM

NOW THATS FUNNY

CALL FEDS

[Calhoun]

I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.

Why wouldn't they be listed?

[racing123]

Tony Morgan owned many horses or was partners on many horses on the Chicago circuit back in the day and was never listed as owner...side deals make it a cash type of business for him - officially being listed puts your business on the books

[jupiter]

I own or owned a piece of every horse in my barn, and not on deals either. You cant make money on a training bill anymore or 5% for being the trainer. I never had an owner complain that I had a piece of every thing. Never bitched when we had one claimed, smart enough to not try to pull off a scam on any owner. Never stiffed one or parked somebody´s horse cause he someone claimed  from a drivers wife. Tony Morgan and Dave Palone made a living from being silent ¨partners¨ on horses.

[Bernie Madoff]

What advantage is there for the "real" owners to have a "silent" partner? So they can be responsible for his "share" ?Taxes, vet bills, feed, stakes payments ? All of you are delusional in your pursuit of "cheaters".

[LUCPARK]

GOOD CHEATERS ARE HARDER AND HARDER TO FIND

[Lotsofpace]

Almost every driver i know owns, or has a family member who owns horses. its usually a family affair...older family memebrs own and train/young guns drive. Thats the business.

[AGUA CALIENTE]

best way to go, Have trainer own a part of horse, at least he'll get out of the stall then.

[racing123]

What advantage is there for the "real" owners to have a "silent" partner? So they can be responsible for his "share" ?Taxes, vet bills, feed, stakes payments ? All of you are delusional in your pursuit of "cheaters".

If you were a "real" owner and your "silent partner" was Tony Morgan in Chicago - there were lots of advantages !$!$!$ - ask Bret Shultz or Jerry Grevengoed or many others..Tony is a terrific driver - an even better horseman and as everyone who knows Chicago harness well Tony made a lot of money racing in Chicago - for himself and for whoever partnered up with him...and the taxes and the bills etc?  Yes the "real owner" is responsible - but Tony was very fair and that was part of the negotiation...

[Bernie Madoff]

Negotiating an invisible contract? That must have been interesting.