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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2020, 11:58:50 AM »
The USTA permits backdating of all ownership certificates.  Further, it is 90 days from the opening of said meet. The commission can require evidence of sale of any horse along with copy of check/wire paid for each horse that was transferred.  Not saying they will do this but they have authority to do so. 

Further, the occupational license truly is governed by the states not the feds.  The tracks can forbid anyone from participating on their track whether they are licensed or not. 

The USTA used to be able to stop people from racing by drying them a license but now many tracks do not even require a USTA license. 

The USTA is truly a record keeping entity without and true authority in the courts.  The power they had in the past is no longer evident.  The states look at occupational licenses for racing the same as a nail technician or barber.  No difference.

The casinos truly want nothing to do with racing as it cost them funds and headaches.  These indictments will fuel casinos to push for the requirements of having racing to be removed....perman ently.    This will require a vote by the legislature.  This is possible.

I personally believe that horse racing needs a powerful lobbyist to be very active asap to help control collateral damage.  I am sure there is little support for something like this but harness racing is hanging on by a thread. 

They need strong leadership now.  Today.  Not tomorrow.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2020, 12:20:12 PM »
Racing has a short widow to get their shit together, and I donīt see it happening. States not even looking at this now, busy with other things. USTA WILL DO NOTHING, neutered long ago. Just a bloated organization. WE DO NOT NEED a giant board, cut it down to a reasonable size, WE DO NOT need 60 people on a board. Is there any other board that has that many members? Why doesnīt the USTA ask for the canceled  checks? They either donīt want to know or just donīt care or think we care. Just donīt rock the boat. 

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2020, 12:57:16 PM »
Racing has a short widow to get their shit together, and I donīt see it happening. States not even looking at this now, busy with other things. USTA WILL DO NOTHING, neutered long ago. Just a bloated organization. WE DO NOT NEED a giant board, cut it down to a reasonable size, WE DO NOT need 60 people on a board. Is there any other board that has that many members? Why doesnīt the USTA ask for the canceled  checks? They either donīt want to know or just donīt care or think we care. Just donīt rock the boat.

They're happy to get the $35 transfer fee

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2020, 01:06:19 PM »
SCARY, but so true, 35.00 ea.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2020, 01:13:39 PM »
The USTA permits backdating of all ownership certificates.  Further, it is 90 days from the opening of said meet. The commission can require evidence of sale of any horse along with copy of check/wire paid for each horse that was transferred.  Not saying they will do this but they have authority to do so. 

Further, the occupational license truly is governed by the states not the feds.  The tracks can forbid anyone from participating on their track whether they are licensed or not. 

The USTA used to be able to stop people from racing by drying them a license but now many tracks do not even require a USTA license. 

The USTA is truly a record keeping entity without and true authority in the courts.  The power they had in the past is no longer evident.  The states look at occupational licenses for racing the same as a nail technician or barber.  No difference.

The casinos truly want nothing to do with racing as it cost them funds and headaches.  These indictments will fuel casinos to push for the requirements of having racing to be removed....perman ently.    This will require a vote by the legislature.  This is possible.

I personally believe that horse racing needs a powerful lobbyist to be very active asap to help control collateral damage.  I am sure there is little support for something like this but harness racing is hanging on by a thread. 

They need strong leadership now.  Today.  Not tomorrow.

well said.
i tried to get on the phha board but lost to the incumbent :(

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2020, 01:15:29 PM »
a simple way to stop this would be to set up a rule that says X or Y percentage of a susspended trainers horses cannot be transfered to any 1 trainer. maybe no more than 25%. 33%.
that wouldnt solve everything but would make life MUCH more difficult for this kind of activity

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2020, 01:18:26 PM »
You will never get elected to the board unless you kiss Beegles ass, and wait in line for your turn. More corrupt than the MSOA, in same league with NY SBOA.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2020, 08:33:48 PM »
You will never get elected to the board unless you kiss Beegles ass, and wait in line for your turn. More corrupt than the MSOA, in same league with NY SBOA.

WHO WAS THE GUY ON THIS FORUM WHO SAID HARNESS RACING IS NOTHING BUT A G O B N?  SEEMS YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO YOUR TEACHERS

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2020, 11:01:32 AM »
Allard mommy \ D racing has or most likely will do something wrong. FBI isn't done yet. This isn't the states they are fucking with.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2020, 08:35:57 PM »
now that faraldo is head of usta they will do al they can to protect these bums and their owners since he is one

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2020, 09:29:09 PM »
Theyīre dealing with the fucking FBI not the USTA, Jazzman your nuts

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2020, 11:07:38 PM »
Theyīre dealing with the fucking FBI not the USTA, Jazzman your nuts

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2020, 11:56:15 PM »
THERE WILL BE NO FAVORS.  NO BUDDIES.   NO, GEE WHIZ, NOT A BIG DEAL.   THIS IS THE REAL THING.  THIS IS NOT A GAME NOR IS POLITICS INVOLVED.  WHETHER THESE FELLOWS ARE GUILTY OR NOT WILL BE DICTATED BY THE FACTS AND TRUTHFULLY THE PROSECUTORS OF THIS CASE ARE OUT TO WIN TO FURTHER THEIR REPUTATION AND THEY ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST.

THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THE RACING COMMISSIONS NOR THE STATES---THIS IS THE FEDS AND THEY PROSECUTE.  PERIOD.   AS THE NEW YORK AREA RECOVERS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE DISCOVERY AND THEN YOU WILL SEE MANY UPDATES.

PLEASE RECALL THAT " JUSTICE MOVES SLOWLY BUT IT DOES MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!"  THE OCTOBER 2 HEARINGS IS ABOUT IN LINE WITH THE SITUATION.   I WOULD NOT BE SHOCKED IF THERE IS NOT ADDITIONAL CONTINUANCES FROM THIS DATE.   IN TODAYS CLIMATE--THERE WILL BE JUST CAUSE FOR THE GRANTING OF SUCH REQUEST FOR ALL/ANY PARTY THAT REQUEST SUCH EXTENSION.   THE EARLIEST PLEAS NOW WILL NOT BE BEFORE THE OCTOBER 2, 2020 COURT DATE AND IN MY OPINION MONTHS AFTER THAT SOMETIME IN THE FALL OF 2021.

THIS IS A LONG PROCESS WITHJUST ONE CASE LET ALONE 29 CASES PLUS ADDITIONAL INDICTMENTS.   SEVERAL YEARS WILL PASS ---I WOULD BE TOTALLY SHOCKED WITH THE CHARGES PENDING AND WHAT EVIDENCE THEY HAVE SHOWN (WHICH IS A SMALL PIECE OF WHAT THEY HAVE---THEY ONLY NEED TO SHOW JUST CAUSE TO OBTAIN THE INDICTMENT--NOT EVERYTHING!)   

IT WILL BE SHOCKING TO SEE WHAT IS DISCLOSED--WHO IS INVOLVED AND THE NEW CHARGES FILED AGAINST THESE FOLKS AS WELL AS OTHERS NOT YET INDICTED.

NONE OF THE INDICTED WILL RACE DURING ANY OF THESE PROCEEDINGS .   THEY WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO RACE AND TRUTHFULLY NOT BE GRANTED ACCESS TO ANY PM TRACK.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2020, 08:09:50 AM »
Theyīre done, not just in harness racing but in life in general. I hope they have a new way to make money to pay astronomical legal bills.

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Re: D Racing Stable, Middletown NY
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2020, 08:44:50 AM »
PLEASE RECALL THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT OVER---IT IS JUST STARTING.  THE FEDS WILL HAVE UNLIMITED BUDGET FOR SURVEILANCE----PHONE TAPS---VIDEOS AND TAILS OF ALL OF THE INDICTED AND ALSO PERSONS OF INTEREST.   THE FEDS USE THIS TIME TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE TO GAIN MORE EVIDENCE.   THE FEDS ARE KNOWN TO TAIL AND VIDEO MANY OF THE ALREADY INDICTED AND CHARGED TO USE IN THE SENTENCING TO THE JUDGE AND THE PSI REPORT.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE FEDS WITH THE PROSECUTORS WITH AN UNLIMITED BUDGET AND I MEAN UNLIMITED.  THEY CAN AND WILL SPEND MILLIONS TO GET A CONVICTION.  THE INITIAL INVESTIGATION COST ABOUT $5,000.  ONCE THIS IS COMPLETE--THEY DECIDE IF IT IS WORTH PURSUING THE CASE.  AT THIS POINT THEY ARE ALL IN.  THEY DO THE INITIAL INVESTIGATION THOUSANDS AND THOUSAND OF TIME AND FURTHER PURSUE A SMALL PERCENTAGE.   IN THIS CASE THE HARD WORK WAS DONE BY THE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICE---TURNED INTO THE FBI---AND THEY DECIDED TO RUN WITH IT.

THIS IS A REAL CASE AND TRUTHFULLY, THE FBI WOULD NOT HAVE PURSUED THIS CASE FOR FUN.  THEY PURSUED IT BECAUSE THE CASE IS SO STRONG AND IT REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ACROSS THE US IN RACING/SLOTS/CASINOS, ETC.   THIS IS A HUGE CASE---NOT THE 29 INDICTED BUT THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.

I HAVE SEEN MANY CASES AND TRUTHFULLY THIS CASE IS GOING TO BE A PRECEDENT SETTING CASE THAT THE INDUSTRY USES--SUCH AS THE CASINOS AND THE SPLIT REVENUE.   IN FACT, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE CASINOS HAVE LOBBYIST WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF WITH THE FEDS/INVESTIGATORS TO CREATE MORE EVIDENCE TO USE TO CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE PERCENTAGE SPLITS OR REVENUE SHARING OF THE CASINO INCOME TO THE RACING INDUSTRY.   THEY WANT RID OF THE RACING BUSINESS AS IT IS NON PROFITABLE FOR THEM AND IS A DRAG ON WALL STREET.   THEY NOW HAVE SPORTS BETTING---THAT IS THE REAL INCOME.   THEY NO LONGER NEED OR WANT RACING AS IT IS A LOSING PROPOSITION FOR ALL CASINOS.  WHEREAS, SPORTS BETTING IS A HOMERUN FOR THEIR BOTTOM LINE.

THIS CASE WILL SERVE THE CASINO TO AID THEM TO GET SUPPORT IN CONGRESS TO MAKE HUGE CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY.   UNFORTUNATELY, THESE WILL HURT THE EVERYDAY HONEST HARD WORKING HORSE PEOPLE THAT TRULY HAVE BEEN THROWN UNDER A BUS BY THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT USED THE SYSTEM TO BE UNJUSTLY ENRICHED.

THEREFORE, JUSTICE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND THE COURTS WILL DECIDE THE INDICTED FUTURES.  MANY MORE WILL BE INDICTED AND THEY WILL SERVE PRISON TIME -----THE FEDS AND THE POWERFUL FORCES BEHIND THE INDICTMENTS WILL BE SURE THEY ARE CONVICTED AND THAT THEY SERVE PRISON TIME AS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ARE AT STAKE.

 

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