Burke under watch at NJ barn.....

[Fair is fair]

Racing can survive without him. Lets not forget when he did 15 days for high tco2 in jan. No tracks cancelled and all tracks raced without him. But again the questions are, why only 15 days?

[Ron Harvey]

I can only hope they do the right thing.  From what I understand the race secretary reads da plop. If the heat is applied to Lowe, Big Toms going to have to do something. He can’t continue to just look the other way.  It’s gone on too long, they are just stealing and buying everyone’s horses behind the trainers back and putting the competition out of the game.  They need to be put in check

[hoosierboy]

Racing can survive without him. Lets not forget when he did 15 days for high tco2 in jan. No tracks cancelled and all tracks raced without him. But again the questions are, why only 15 days?

Because Howard Taylor represents him.

[jupiter]

Money talks, they do a lot of good things for people. Good PR! They have a lawyer who will help negotiate with commissions, this is big business not the old harness racing we all knew,

[Iceman]

That might be exactly what is wrong with the game now. Back in the 60's and 70's if a driver gave a no try the judges without hesitation gave the driver a fine and days and now the tracks have too much say so the judges have become puppets and do as their told. Back then the stables all would grind out a bare living some more than others but the game had it's own pulse not like today where the tracks and commissions push all the buttons in harmony for total control or better yet chaos.

[jupiter]

Iceman what you said is true, but it is the new reality. How many of the trainers can even rig a horse, let alone tell a blacksmith how to shoe one. it's about blood work and enhancers. Race tracks aren't owned by people they are owned by large corporations, except The Big M. Most management doesn't even like racing let alone understand it.

[Iceman]

How many times have you seen where the number pad is ready to fall off one side of the horse or the head number fell off during the race. That would never happen to a hands on trainer because they double checked everything. Nowadays it's almost a regular occurrence because the groom is doing it and between yapping and texting in the paddock this shit happens. With Bill Wellwood when he had Tom Artandi as his assistant and an entry in a race they were turning for home 1st and 2nd when Artandi pulled out from behind Wellwood and just as he did a hopple broke and he veered into Wellwood and they both jumped finishing well back. Wellwood was livid and what it came down to was Artandi didn't check the equipment before heading out. Yes it happens all the time a hopple breaks but in Wellwood's mind you might have seen that it was ready to go and could make a change.

[Calhoun]

How many times have you seen where the number pad is ready to fall off one side of the horse or the head number fell off during the race. That would never happen to a hands on trainer because they double checked everything. Nowadays it's almost a regular occurrence because the groom is doing it and between yapping and texting in the paddock this shit happens. With Bill Wellwood when he had Tom Artandi as his assistant and an entry in a race they were turning for home 1st and 2nd when Artandi pulled out from behind Wellwood and just as he did a hopple broke and he veered into Wellwood and they both jumped finishing well back. Wellwood was livid and what it came down to was Artandi didn't check the equipment before heading out. Yes it happens all the time a hopple breaks but in Wellwood's mind you might have seen that it was ready to go and could make a change.

Thanks.  That's a good story

[jupiter]

Most trainers don't even warm the horse up anymore, they pay someone to jog it a few laps. Most top stables actually warm up the horse

[Fatboy]

how fucking stupid are you? How about the time you and jean got a hot test? You win maybe two or three a year!

OUR HOT TEST WAS TAKEN CARE OF LIKE BURKES WERE
BOX STUFFER SHOULD GET CAUGHT AND BANNED!!!!!!
WE SICK OF GASSING JUST TO GET 2ND MONEY

[Calhoun]

OUR HOT TEST WAS TAKEN CARE OF LIKE BURKES WERE
BOX STUFFER SHOULD GET CAUGHT AND BANNED!!!!!!
WE SICK OF GASSING JUST TO GET 2ND MONEY

The struggle is real.

[Fatboy]

The struggle is real.

CANT EVEN CHEAT AND WIN

[Ron Harvey]

Any development or updates?

[MR.DALRAE]

Any development or updates?

Only in his mind

[Calhoun]

Only in his mind

Fatty knows.