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DeeJennerit

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2019, 02:04:00 PM »
18K in handle? for the entire card?

Correct.  Can you imagine?  But if you talk to horsemen in Ontario, they would never agree that there are too many tracks.  They'd make the point that entitled horsemen in the Hanover/Kawartha/Clinton/Dresden/Sarnia areas need to make a living and it supports local farmers and so on, all the typical horseman bullshit, but guess what? The Patrick Shepherds and Richard Moreaus and so on ship there from out of town to find easy spots and so that argument is null and void.  It is just as the initial category title states: Ontario Welfare.  The industry in Ontario would be far better off dropping every track except for:

Mohawk
Flamboro
Western Fair

Why?

1. Weed out the .109 trainers/drivers from the sticks that are mostly non-competitive and mostly part-timers.  Bring back a Fair circuit for them in the Summer. More competitive races means a much better product, means making the horses stars again, mean better handle and so many other things, the least of which means fewer rats to enter allowing the right horses/horse people to get in more frequently, allowing them to make a better living.

2. Purses can go up.  Instead of funding 342 dump tracks, the government can support three.  Imagine if the purses at these tracks were like they are at YR, PCD and so on?  Again, attracts better horses/horse people, better product and so on.  Eventually, maybe these three tracks are in a position to be more self-sufficient and non-reliant on a government handout.

3. Full fields.  With so many tracks open, there is a horse shortage and full fields are a nightmare for bettors.  With three tracks, those that survive the purge have to find a spot at one of the tree and enter and the result will be far less six and seven horse garbage fields.

All in all, just these three suggestions alone are guaranteed to spark improvement, but from a business standpoint (handle).  If someone there can take the lead and stop catering to the poor-me horsemen, things might actually improve.  Otherwise: Ontario Welfare.

 

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2019, 06:50:11 PM »
Sunday June 23

Clinton Raceway
Total Purse:  $160,750
Total Handle: $60,002

Dresden Raceway
Total Purse:  $51,400
Total Handle: $33,638

but the kids had fun

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2019, 07:41:40 PM »
i watched the first race from clinton today
honest, that was the only race and i did not bet it but i was watching how low the superfecta pool was
it was just above $120 with a few minutes to go and it would go up by $ 5 or so each change
ended being a pool of $143 before the refund of the 2 horse who was 5:1
yet a $.20 super payed almost $50
very odd

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2019, 10:00:40 PM »
how is this welfare when a parking lot full of 70 thou trucks are parked there these guys pay taxes then how many times did the gov bail  out ford gm  bombbardia  while the average small company gets fuck all

The Canadian govt bailed out GM?

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2019, 01:02:09 PM »
Saturday June 29

Hanover Raceway
Total Purse:  $41,000
Total Handle: $25,785

Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse:  $41,900
Total Handle: $22,125

Kawartha Downs
Total Purse:  $40,100
Total Handle: $34,553


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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2019, 04:45:55 PM »
Sunday June 30

Clinton Raceway
Total Purse:  $48,000
Total Handle: $44,032

Dresden Raceway
Total Purse:  $38,000
Total Handle: $24,871




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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2019, 05:45:23 AM »
Monday July 1

Dresden Raceway
Total Purse:  $113,700
Total Handle: $34,762


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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2019, 07:33:56 PM »
Georgian Downs, another welfare case that has absolutely no business conducting business.  They don't even draw full fields.  Such a joke. Browsing through programs tonight, there are 28 horses in the early pick four!  Imagine?  Aren't they better off closing three or four of these places that could care less about betting product and having an actual business plan and combining all of the entries/horse people at one track that services the lot? Say Flamboro year round or Western Fair?  It is so ridiculous.

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2019, 10:03:33 AM »
Saturday July 6

Hanover Raceway
Total Purse:  $42,200
Total Handle: $23,170

Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse:  $42,100
Total Handle: $26,280

Kawartha Downs
Total Purse:  $40,500
Total Handle: $27,753


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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2019, 11:11:20 PM »
The good old days........

In all, 106 drivers competed at Orono for the 1969 meet which is indeed a credit for such a small meeting.
In 1969, the year's 18 programs drew a total of 12,342 patrons with a mutuel handle of $377,300 for an average of $21,000. The Orono Driving Club paid out almost $30,000 in purses compared to the $18,980 paid the previous year.

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2019, 05:43:56 AM »
Sunday July 7

Clinton Raceway
Total Purse:  $101,700
Total Handle: $40,170

Dresden Raceway
Total Purse:  $55,700
Total Handle: $29,607

...just throwing money away....

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2019, 11:01:43 AM »
Saturday July 13

Hanover Raceway
Total Purse:  $41,000
Total Handle: $28,933

Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse:  $49,000
Total Handle: $22,750

Kawartha Downs
Total Purse:  $41,300
Total Handle: $36,045

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2019, 11:46:58 AM »
Thanks wiggles, keep up the good work
I am not Jerry Clark and I have no affiliation with in front racing

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2019, 05:46:10 AM »
Sunday July 14

Clinton Raceway
Total Purse:  $42,500
Total Handle: $31,411

Dresden Raceway
Total Purse:  $40,300
Total Handle: $26,340

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Re: 2019 Ontario Welfare
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2019, 10:55:00 AM »
Saturday July 20

Hanover Raceway
Total Purse:  $43,800
Total Handle: $19,809

Hiawatha Horse Park
Total Purse:  $42,400
Total Handle: $17,927

Kawartha Downs
Total Purse:  $116,900
Total Handle: $35,698

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