Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony

[seen2much]

Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

[Sakit]

Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

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Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?   

[Muyway]

Doesnt melissa train Betwith horses how is mark hall of fame and take credit for wins he didnt half?

[seen2much]

Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?

You left off Pacer 2 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Why is there even a discussion whether someone who is cheating is directly, indirectly, tangentially, or whatever, stealing from you, or anyone else for that matter. That's the victimless crime BS. It's cheating. It hurts everyone, including the horses.