Buffalo raceway mid 80s

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Carmen hie, Ted Jacob's.  John and Jack kopas, Sam schillachi

Yes...at least with Carmen, Teddy, and the Kopas family, as well as other Canadians, they would ship horses to Buffalo, stable there on occasion, etc. I remember the first time Jack Kopas sent Roger to Buffalo with a few horses. Some Canadians would ship the horses that couldn't do on the old OJC to Buffalo. Kopas always did well in NY and did very well years later downstate.

[Rdp066]

How about Dick Welch in that crew also.

[Mazola]

Yes...at least with Carmen, Teddy, and the Kopas family, as well as other Canadians, they would ship horses to Buffalo, stable there on occasion, etc. I remember the first time Jack Kopas sent Roger to Buffalo with a few horses. Some Canadians would ship the horses that couldn't do on the old OJC to Buffalo. Kopas always did well in NY and did very well years later downstate.

Man, you know a lot of people Oh. its Carman btw.

[SwankToliverA]

Not a superstar name, but Charlie Bacon. I remember cheering for him, as a little girl back then while he was racing.

[jupiter]

Hugh Stevens + Cindy Stark = Tammy Stevens + Todd Cummings = Kyle Cummings. Hugh was a real gem, knocked one of Cindy's teeth out. I hope he was booted back over the river, POS

[rainman2]

The locals had to take care of their own business as the Canadians that came to race there had better horses and took more purse money back to Canada!

[jupiter]

There were Canadians and Frogs, the Canadians hated the Frogs and the Americans hated them both. The Frogs didn't give a shit, just kept making money at the windows.

[rainman2]

The track was so crooked that they even fixed the dinner lottery!

Babi

I believe Gaston Valiquette was the General Manager in this time frame.  I believe years later (late 80's), he was the GM of Pompano Park where there was at least 1 questionable race!

[Frank the Zipper]

Murray Waples lit up many @ Buffalo in the 80-90's.

[rainman2]

Murray Waples lit up many @ Buffalo in the 80-90's.

Not familiar with that name.  I left Buffalo in 1985

[jupiter]

Murray Waples was 60's early 70's. Owen Bray and Karl Lowes worked for the him. John Hayes, Jack Mehlenbacher had stables at Batavia.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Murray Waples died a few years ago, the same year Keith did. He was 93 and Keith made it to 97.

Some people don't know Murray was involved with track ownership. He was a partner with Keith, and Jim Keeling, in Orangeville Raceway when it first opened. They also were involved with Cloverdale Raceway (Fraser Downs) and Sandown Park.