Great trotters who beat great pacers

[TimTimTimbo]

I'm from NZ but there was a horse in the late 70's named Maori's Idol who had 46 starts for 40 wins and 4 seconds.

Here is a couple of races from way back. He was also the first trotter in Australia to break the two minute barrier 48 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZi1qnzMHQ0

The trotters were 100 yards worse than him. He raced in the Aussie Grand Circuit against the best pacers they had there and won twice and was beaten by the champion pacer at the time in Rip Van Winkle

One of his victims was a famous Pacer named Paleface Adios who had the following line 240 starts 108 wins-43 seconds-25 thirds

I was lucky enough to own a trotter who broke the 2600 meter record in New Zealand not only for a trotter but he was the only trotter to break a NZ record held by a pacer.  My only regret was not running against them in a race. In workouts and trials he would routinely beat the crap out of good pacers. He was voted NZ trotter of the year twice though.

[SeattleSlew]

To the best of my knowledge, here in the U.S. a horse out of Roll With Joe (sire of Twin B. Fresh), set the double-gaited record of 3:45.1 by pacing in 1:50.2 (winning over 6 figures) and then trotting in 1:54.4 at Hoosier Park.

That is clearly nowhere near having a top trotter beat a good pacer, but it is fairly impressive.  Sounds like there are several really promising horses down under this year. (follow mostly on HRU and watch some of the top races.)

[Junebug990]

Years ago I remember Herve had a trotter that used to race at Yonkers and Roosevelt called Grade Singing. The name maybe wrong but I apologize for that. That horse raced against open pacers and won from the 8 post.

[kantseeback]

Years ago I remember Herve had a trotter that used to race at Yonkers and Roosevelt called Grade Singing. The name maybe wrong but I apologize for that. That horse raced against open pacers and won from the 8 post.

I remember Grades Singing racing against pacers 2 times at YR. She won 1 and lost 1. I don't think any of those pacers were top notch, it was just gimmick racing.
The last double gaited horse I remember was years ago, Six Day War. He won trot and pace races. Not big stake races but I believe handicap level or so.

[chester]

I remember Six Day War and also Speedy Romeo as both double gaited

[old guy]

Crockett and Steamin Demon

[Mazola]

Gerry Mir

[Dave]

Paladin in the Chicago circuit was double gaited.   Not terribly good at either gait, but he won races.   

[Parked]

Have not seen any trotting bred pacers lately. In the 60. - 80 s. They were fairly common.

[carl baldwin]

I remember Six Day War and also Speedy Romeo as both double gaited

Six Day War sire was Niatross.

[jupiter]

Excaliber   Freddy Haslip Buffalo/Batavia