My goodness you people are something else. Still going at it? Ok WE KNOW. Mike P is hated by his kids. Mike P couldn't train a great white shark to eat a seal. WE KNOW. He hasn't denied any of this. Calhoun says and does stupid things. He definitely is not very bright. Having said that Mike has done plenty good for the horses and genuinely wants the business to rally. He just lets his 1,000,000 cigarette suffering 3 times attacked heart get the best of him sometimes. And spouts off. He is definitely better off on his own when trying to accomplish something. He cannot work with others. But again!! At least he is helping. At least he has a list of accomplishments and a few feathers in his cap. So can we maybe please say enough about his kids? Everyone knows his situation. Move on. Gosh a 75 year old sick man is going back and forth and back and forth with Mike as well. Give it a rest. Leave Mike alone. Repeating the same crap isn't gonna change anything. It's simply to be cruel. Personally, I am not a fan of Mike either, but who cares? He's doing good work in a business that I am involved with. I don't have to like him to support him! Please folks move along

A member of a FB group asked me this question.

So, I asked grok:

Is Grifting in Goshen NY a crime?


grok said,

No, "grifting" itself is not a specific crime under New York State law (or in Goshen, NY, which falls under state and local Orange County jurisdiction).

"Grifting" is a colloquial or slang term for conning, swindling, or deceiving people to obtain money or benefits through dishonest means—often small-scale scams, confidence tricks, or manipulative schemes.

It's not defined as a standalone criminal offense in the New York Penal Law.

However, the actions typically described as grifting are usually illegal and can be prosecuted as various crimes, depending on the specifics:

Larceny (theft) — Including by false pretenses, trick, or deception (NY Penal Law Article 155). This covers obtaining property through fraud or misrepresentation .

color and italicization added by Calhoun

I particularly liked how the horse wanted to leave, didn't, pulled out and waited for more horses to pull out nothing and doesn't 3 wide, then ducks back in then pulls out again and whips his own horse literally into oblivion.

It was worth the price of admission for both of us, no