There are some owners who are duplicitous and culpable, and are involved in obtaining illegal PED's. There are vets as well. Of course there are trainers. Unless you go after, catch, and punish all three, you are simply cutting off Hydra's head. I for one was hoping that the FBI investigation and indictments of Navarro, Servis, et al -- and Gural's banning of Howard Taylor -- would be the efforts that broke the dam wide open.