More evidence harness racing is thriving

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https://ustrottingnews.com/derby-day-pick-4-carryover-sets-oak-grove-betting-record/

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Are you high?

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They are getting the best horses for now. Ofcourse people will bet until the good stock is gone. They are Just like the meadowlands use to be for a few days a yr. Hardly thriving. The meadowlands would be like that every race day. Best of the best. Now you have amish guys driving there living out their dreams of driving at the big M.

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owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.

[seen2much]

Oak Grove handled around 1 million. That is for Saturday and Monday combined. That is anything but thriving. The top 5% in the sport are making money. Everyone else is doing okay or just getting by. Look at the tracks today. Only Yonkers and Plainridge have good purses. Eight tracks and six have okay to low purses.
#THRIVING...NOT!!!

[Racetime]

Take away the welfare money from the casinos and tell us its thriving

[ScrapeThePaint]

Oak Grove handled around 1 million. That is for Saturday and Monday combined. That is anything but thriving. The top 5% in the sport are making money. Everyone else is doing okay or just getting by. Look at the tracks today. Only Yonkers and Plainridge have good purses. Eight tracks and six have okay to low purses.
#THRIVING...NOT!!!

That’s not accurate at all. Saratoga, Pocono, Meadows and the tracks in Delaware have great purses. Not to mention Scioto. Pocono has 12,500 overnight claimers going for $11,000 purse. Thats not chum change, that’s good money for the average Horseman who races in claiming conditions

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i still do not understand why some continue to reference "casino welfare money"
does nobody recall that this transaction was part of the agreement that allowed casinos to gain a foothold by entering via racetracks
time does not diminish nor make an agreement less relevant or legal
if anything the casinos have not held up their end of the bargain at some of the tracks, they do nothing to promote or enhance racing and now would like to welch on their agreement and decouple

[rainman2]

That’s not accurate at all. Saratoga, Pocono, Meadows and the tracks in Delaware have great purses. Not to mention Scioto. Pocono has 12,500 overnight claimers going for $11,000 purse. Thats not chum change, that’s good money for the average Horseman who races in claiming conditions

Are there any rules at Pocono?

Do they test there?

This is a sample of who you are racing against:

Eckley, Taneyhill, Pena, Chrissman Jr., Belcher, Brittney Dillon, etc al

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owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.

https://ustrottingnews.com/harness-racing-stars-at-philly-for-super-sunday/

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i still do not understand why some continue to reference "casino welfare money"
does nobody recall that this transaction was part of the agreement that allowed casinos to gain a foothold by entering via racetracks
time does not diminish nor make an agreement less relevant or legal
if anything the casinos have not held up their end of the bargain at some of the tracks, they do nothing to promote or enhance racing and now would like to welch on their agreement and decouple

[rainman2]

owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.

Where was Ohio racing before VLT'S-both in overnight and sires stakes?

Where is it today?

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Are there any rules at Pocono?

Do they test there?

This is a sample of who you are racing against:

Eckley, Taneyhill, Pena, Chrissman Jr., Belcher, Brittney Dillon, etc al

    Of course they test. How dumb are you?

[rainman2]

    Of course they test. How dumb are you?

Not as dumb as you think---do they get caught is a better question!

[ScrapeThePaint]

Are there any rules at Pocono?

Do they test there?

This is a sample of who you are racing against:

Eckley, Taneyhill, Pena, Chrissman Jr., Belcher, Brittney Dillon, etc al

Rules and testing? Of course they do. That has zero today with what we are talking about.