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« Reply #122 on: Today at 12:23:50 PM »
I still don't see what Mark Ford has to do with any of this. This is a Howard Taylor issue. The only real, documented issue going on with Mark Ford right now is not a Mark Ford issue-----it's an SBOANJ issue. The SBOANJ Board, Officers, etc., of which Mark Ford is President, have been sued by a member of the SBOANJ. It's in the court system now. What else is there? I am not talking about some hollow, fabricated, or the like accusations from people on the internet. Forget about inferences, claims, and stories, or anything of the like. You don't even have to attach your name to it. Just show some legitimate, third party based, documented something.

As far as Taylor, some have said he'll be fine. Some have said otherwise. Nothing more than opinion, and mine is, he doesn't come out of this clean, unscathed, etc. I just don't see it. If it happens, I'll be wrong, but I also think it will have massive consequences.

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« Reply #123 on: Today at 01:20:53 PM »
I still don't see what Mark Ford has to do with any of this. This is a Howard Taylor issue. The only real, documented issue going on with Mark Ford right now is not a Mark Ford issue-----it's an SBOANJ issue. The SBOANJ Board, Officers, etc., of which Mark Ford is President, have been sued by a member of the SBOANJ. It's in the court system now. What else is there? I am not talking about some hollow, fabricated, or the like accusations from people on the internet. Forget about inferences, claims, and stories, or anything of the like. You don't even have to attach your name to it. Just show some legitimate, third party based, documented something.

As far as Taylor, some have said he'll be fine. Some have said otherwise. Nothing more than opinion, and mine is, he doesn't come out of this clean, unscathed, etc. I just don't see it. If it happens, I'll be wrong, but I also think it will have massive consequences.

Its the old, where there's smoke there's usually fire. With Ford, it's two-fold: one, he gave horses to other trainers to train. On the surface you might give him a pass but if you dig deeper the guys he elected to use turned out to be some of the guys implicated in the Seth Fishman fiasco. At minimum that's a bad look, especially if you're the president of the Horsemen's Association. Others might take a more viscerable view and come to the conclusion that there was willfull intent to use those guys to win substantial purse money while technically avoiding any responsibility. Add to that the reputation of his training facility being the haven for dubious trainers that continually strike at a unfathomable win rate throughout New York, especially Yonkers and you can see why many are not fond of him. As for Howard, I think there exists a new sentiment that it's time to deal with this guy. And outside of cutting off CAW, this is the single biggest reason why so many owners have given up. For decades they race against guys like Taylor who only supports high percentage trainers and will move a horse in an instant.

 

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