Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony

[seen2much]

Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

[G]

Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

[Pacer 2]

Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?   

[Muyway]

Doesnt melissa train Betwith horses how is mark hall of fame and take credit for wins he didnt half?

[seen2much]

Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?

You left off Pacer 2 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Why is there even a discussion whether someone who is cheating is directly, indirectly, tangentially, or whatever, stealing from you, or anyone else for that matter. That's the victimless crime BS. It's cheating. It hurts everyone, including the horses.

[G]

You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.
You left off Pacer 2 

I don’t get your point. He’s never stolen from me.

[Yonkers1A]

How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.

 

[Pool Guy]

Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal. 

It all makes sense, now 

[Pool Guy]

Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal. 

It All Makes Sense Now 

[Harness racer]

Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?

[Pool Guy]

Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?

Eating family dinner 

[Pool Guy]

Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?

Pacer 2 thinks this Is FAKE NEWS  BUT Pacer 2 KNOWS first hand 

[Lockedin with Pace]

Pacer2 has had a man crush on Bret Beckwith for a long time, in his eyes he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. When you have the nerve to say something negative about him, he thinks you're jealous of the money he makes.

[Pool Guy]

Pacer2 has had a man crush on Bret Beckwith for a long time, in his eyes he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. When you have the nerve to say something negative about him, he thinks you're jealous of the money he makes.

Im guessing there is really good reason for that...Pacer 2 ...part of the Beckwith Crime Family