The Secretariat Club, Monday, 9/22/25

[Trigger]

This year is flying by like a bat out of hell, and racing is going to kind of get dull soon, but we have the holidays to chill out and refresh.  California, Florida, Dubai...always nice weather and quality horses running somewhere on Planet Earth. 

Finger Lakes I believe is going to be Fast, some light rain forecasted.  9 races starting there at 1:00 pm with 4 stakes races therein.  Harrington, for me, sure why not, it will be Fast.  It'll overlap Finger Lakes, with the latter 14 race card starting at 4:30 pm, and all Pace races there today too.

See ya then, and, Good Luck! 

[JOHN FRANK]

TRIG. You on to sumthin at HAWTHORNE yeasterday.
I gets the first. But what me don't understand is SHOW on a 4 horse field.
Then comes the 3rd race with the same trainer. They dump on show and he runs last again. Show more than place on all 3 in the money. But the really strange thin was: The EXACTA pool had $86,000 bet into it. Have not seen that much in 10 years in a race at the PALACE. The boys went and cashed on the EXACTA,to throw off the public.
And then it was the 5th or 6th same trainer. After runnin out with 2 chalks previously. The guy wins with a MONSTER price.
One wonders why anyone bets this SHIT anymore.

[Trigger]

TRIG. You on to sumthin at HAWTHORNE yeasterday.
I gets the first. But what me don't understand is SHOW on a 4 horse field.
Then comes the 3rd race with the same trainer. They dump on show and he runs last again. Show more than place on all 3 in the money. But the really strange thin was: The EXACTA pool had $86,000 bet into it. Have not seen that much in 10 years in a race at the PALACE. The boys went and cashed on the EXACTA,to throw off the public.
And then it was the 5th or 6th same trainer. After runnin out with 2 chalks previously. The guy wins with a MONSTER price.
One wonders why anyone bets this SHIT anymore.

Excellent analysis John.  Thank you for telling us as I did not follow through with the rest of the card.  MSW (Maiden Special Weight) is my default type race when stakes races and nothing else works, small field is better than large as you can bet cold more easily, also I only try to do those MSW's on the dirt. 

Now that you said this I put on my calendar the 25th, the next racing day there and I will have the entire past performance form downloaded and watch the pools, no handicapping just see what's up.  This is a first for me, but I have to try something different because the last almost 2 months was really bad.

[Trigger]

Not 100% sure but looking at the hourly weather forecasted in Farmington, NY aka Finger Lakes' location, the rain if it is going to hit will be around 4pm and about 1/4".  Possibly the 7-9 races might be affected, just an fyi.

[Papillon]

TRIG. You on to sumthin at HAWTHORNE yeasterday.
I gets the first. But what me don't understand is SHOW on a 4 horse field.
Then comes the 3rd race with the same trainer. They dump on show and he runs last again. Show more than place on all 3 in the money. But the really strange thin was: The EXACTA pool had $86,000 bet into it. Have not seen that much in 10 years in a race at the PALACE. The boys went and cashed on the EXACTA,to throw off the public.
And then it was the 5th or 6th same trainer. After runnin out with 2 chalks previously. The guy wins with a MONSTER price.
One wonders why anyone bets this SHIT anymore.

excellent observation John,

the trainer was Armando Hernandez-who has a career winning 25% average--both his favorites ran last in four horse fields--then he comes back with a longshot--reminds me of Liberty Bell

the first one there was around $8900 to show and the next one was $4900-so they weren't heavy bettors by any means

there was one three weeks ago with over a $100k to show in a 4 horse field and he won

Hawthorne doesn't care-they need the handle so they allow it

[JT]

I cannot even recall the last time I bet a race in Illinois.. runners or harness. Sad state of affairs there. Reminds me of Ohio pre racinos.

[Indian24]

Hey guys hope you are well today  Gonna post some early mohawk pick5s 1rst 843/357/5/69/34678 one other ticket for first one 3/3/5/13679/34678. Good luck to all playing anywhere today 

[Trigger]

Indy is hard at work, already handicapped the MST card, let's hope he takes them down! 

Harrington, I haven't even got started there.

Here is my Finger Fucking Bad Lakes ($117.80), 2 different adw's therefore different formats...


Grand Total 14 Tickets$43
Finger Lakes14 Tickets$43

    Race  1 01:00 PM3 Tickets$10
        R
        $1 DBL 1,5,8/2,4 $6.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK5 1,5,8/2,4/2/2/6 $3.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 WIN 5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  7 03:54 PM1 Tickets$4
        R
        $1 DBL 5/3,4,7,10 $4.00 Cancel
    Race  6 03:25 PM2 Tickets$10
        R
        $2 DBL 5/5 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK4 5/5/3,4,7,10/1,3,5,8 $8.00 Cancel
    Race  5 02:56 PM2 Tickets$10
        R
        $2 DBL 6/5 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK5 6/5/5/3,4,7,10/1,3,5,8 $8.00 Cancel
    Race  4 02:27 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $2 DBL 2/6 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 PK3 2/6/5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  3 01:58 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $2 DBL 2/2 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 PK4 2/2/6/5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  2 01:29 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $1 DBL 2,4/2 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK3 2,4/2/2 $1.00 Cancel

 
Track    Race    Base ($)    Pool    Runners    Handle ($)
  Finger Lakes                74.80
   Race 1    1.00    EX    BX+1+5+8    NaN.00
   Race 1    0.50    TRI    BX+1+5+8    3.00
   Race 1    0.10    SPR    5 / 1+8 / 1+8 / 1+2+3+5+7+8    0.60
   Race 2    1.00    EX    BX+2+4    2.00
   Race 2    0.50    TRI    2+4 / 2+4 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    4.00
   Race 2    0.10    SPR    2+4 / 2+4 / 1+2+3+4+5+6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    2.40
   Race 5    1.00    EX    BX+6 / 2+4+9+10+11    10.00
   Race 5    0.10    SPR    6 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11    6.00
   Race 5    0.10    SPR    2+4+9+10+11 / 6 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11    6.00
   Race 5    2.00    WIN    6    2.00
   Race 7    0.50    PK3    5 / 3+4+7+10 / 1+3+5+8    8.00
   Race 8    1.00    DBL    3+4+7+10 / 1+3+5+8    16.00
   Race 8    0.10    SPR    BX+3+4+7+10    2.40
   Race 8    1.00    WIN    3+7    2.00
   Race 9    0.10    SPR    BX+1+3+5+8    2.40
   Race 9    1.00    WIN    1+3    2.00

[JT]

Hey guys hope you are well today  Gonna post some early mohawk pick5s 1rst 843/357/5/69/34678 one other ticket for first one 3/3/5/13679/34678. Good luck to all playing anywhere today 

Good luck Indy

[JT]

Indy is hard at work, already handicapped the MST card, let's hope he takes them down! 

Harrington, I haven't even got started there.

Here is my Finger Fucking Bad Lakes ($117.80), 2 different adw's therefore different formats...


Grand Total 14 Tickets$43
Finger Lakes14 Tickets$43

    Race  1 01:00 PM3 Tickets$10
        R
        $1 DBL 1,5,8/2,4 $6.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK5 1,5,8/2,4/2/2/6 $3.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 WIN 5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  7 03:54 PM1 Tickets$4
        R
        $1 DBL 5/3,4,7,10 $4.00 Cancel
    Race  6 03:25 PM2 Tickets$10
        R
        $2 DBL 5/5 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK4 5/5/3,4,7,10/1,3,5,8 $8.00 Cancel
    Race  5 02:56 PM2 Tickets$10
        R
        $2 DBL 6/5 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK5 6/5/5/3,4,7,10/1,3,5,8 $8.00 Cancel
    Race  4 02:27 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $2 DBL 2/6 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 PK3 2/6/5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  3 01:58 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $2 DBL 2/2 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $1 PK4 2/2/6/5 $1.00 Cancel
    Race  2 01:29 PM2 Tickets$3
        R
        $1 DBL 2,4/2 $2.00 Cancel
        R
        $0.50 PK3 2,4/2/2 $1.00 Cancel

 
Track    Race    Base ($)    Pool    Runners    Handle ($)
  Finger Lakes                74.80
   Race 1    1.00    EX    BX+1+5+8    NaN.00
   Race 1    0.50    TRI    BX+1+5+8    3.00
   Race 1    0.10    SPR    5 / 1+8 / 1+8 / 1+2+3+5+7+8    0.60
   Race 2    1.00    EX    BX+2+4    2.00
   Race 2    0.50    TRI    2+4 / 2+4 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    4.00
   Race 2    0.10    SPR    2+4 / 2+4 / 1+2+3+4+5+6 / 1+2+3+4+5+6    2.40
   Race 5    1.00    EX    BX+6 / 2+4+9+10+11    10.00
   Race 5    0.10    SPR    6 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11    6.00
   Race 5    0.10    SPR    2+4+9+10+11 / 6 / 2+4+9+10+11 / 2+4+9+10+11    6.00
   Race 5    2.00    WIN    6    2.00
   Race 7    0.50    PK3    5 / 3+4+7+10 / 1+3+5+8    8.00
   Race 8    1.00    DBL    3+4+7+10 / 1+3+5+8    16.00
   Race 8    0.10    SPR    BX+3+4+7+10    2.40
   Race 8    1.00    WIN    3+7    2.00
   Race 9    0.10    SPR    BX+1+3+5+8    2.40
   Race 9    1.00    WIN    1+3    2.00

Good luck today man. I got rained out today so my vacation got extended by 1 day. Im right there with ya at Finger Lakes.. 2 in race 4 and 6 in race 5.
Early pick 5
All/All/All/2/6
$90 lady fingers
I think very vulnerable heavy favorites in races 2 and 3.

[Trigger]

Good luck today man. I got rained out today so my vacation got extended by 1 day. Im right there with ya at Finger Lakes.. 2 in race 4 and 6 in race 5.
Early pick 5
All/All/All/2/6
$90 lady fingers
I think very vulnerable heavy favorites in races 2 and 3.

Bombs away JT, you'll be alive in leg 4 unlike most of us other wing and a prayers 

[Trigger]

Don't complain about being alive 

I checked my pulse, I'm deceased, calling it at 9/22/25 1309.25 

[JT]

Don't complain about being alive 

I checked my pulse, I'm deceased, calling it at 9/22/25 1309.25 

No complaints, I'm pissed for you. Your horses run 2nd ,3rd and 4th. We know that feeling all to well.Pulling for the 2 and 4 in race 2

[Indian24]

Good luck Indy

 

[Trigger]

No complaints, I'm pissed for you. Your horses run 2nd ,3rd and 4th. We know that feeling all to well.Pulling for the 2 and 4 in race 2

Don't be pissed, at least I made it to the wedding, late, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, I'm the maid of honor, bridesmaid, and flower girl...and I manged to get fucked too.   What more could a guy ask for