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« Last post by Pacer 2 on May 21, 2026, 10:58:50 PM »
owners, trainers, and drivers at the higher levels are making serious money, and some stakes programs are actually richer than decades ago.
https://ustrottingnews.com/harness-racing-stars-at-philly-for-super-sunday/
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« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 10:39:52 PM »
Horses come up the rail at all tracks. Zeron makes a living at it in huge-money races.
Calvin Borel made it more famous and way before Zeron.
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« Last post by Sweet on May 21, 2026, 10:37:54 PM »
I have one friend his name is FRANKIE
The rest are humans 🙄
Bullseye! 
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« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 10:35:12 PM »
i understand your point rainman
however assuming they want the 5% regardless of ownership would assume these guys try to win every race they drive in, given the comments i see on this site many would strongly disagree this is the case
also drivers owning horses may work opposite to your theory, since they own the horse they may actually race less aggressive some nights not wanting to hurt the horse( their investment)
either way i just think it is unnecessary and problematic
as for amateur races, they should be non wagering and certainly not held at the big m, however if people are wagering on them than they will continue
If you draw 7 & 8 on a 1/2 mile Track and 8 & 9 on a 5/8 mile Track, chances are the drive will be less aggressive. As an owner, I hope for a check in this scenario, and I say thank you if it happens! Tough to bet outside posts too. If there is no interest on the tote board, you have to assume a less aggressive drive! Look at the money they bet on amateur races! In some cases, more than regular races! More value as a bettor but more unpredictable because of the drivers involved!
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Still time for some on here to stock up with tissues and hand cream, because I see precious Brett is going to be on The Big M show tomorrow night. Be still my beating heart. 
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« Last post by LUCPARK on May 21, 2026, 10:32:01 PM »
I have one friend his name is FRANKIE
The rest are humans 🙄
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« Last post by rainman2 on May 21, 2026, 10:29:04 PM »
That’s not accurate at all. Saratoga, Pocono, Meadows and the tracks in Delaware have great purses. Not to mention Scioto. Pocono has 12,500 overnight claimers going for $11,000 purse. Thats not chum change, that’s good money for the average Horseman who races in claiming conditions
Are there any rules at Pocono? Do they test there? This is a sample of who you are racing against: Eckley, Taneyhill, Pena, Chrissman Jr., Belcher, Brittney Dillon, etc al
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« Last post by toothman on May 21, 2026, 10:23:08 PM »
drivers should not be owning horses
its a conflict and a bad look for the sport
disagree as a bettor, nothing makes more confident tht I'll get a competitive drive than seeing driver or wife listed as owner. i don't see it as a conflict or bad look. and its often hidden.
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« Last post by dougie on May 21, 2026, 10:18:57 PM »
I think the voters of NJ would be stupid not to vote for both the Meadowlands and Monmouth getting casino gambling. The casinos that will open in NYC are sure to put both a dent in Atlantic City and neighboring venues. My buddy Frank, who works at Foxwoods and live in Clark Falls, Ct. told me the management there is very concerned about the impact the NYC casinos will have on them. He told me the Casino estimates about 15%-20% of it's visitors are from the five boroughs of NYC. I think Foxwoods and Atlantic City will take a "hit" when the NYC casinos are up and running.
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« Last post by Sweet on May 21, 2026, 10:18:48 PM »
trig this paint guy has already proven he does a little snorting paint fumes.
Maybe I could of handled that better and just posted the damn links 
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