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« Last post by Pacer 2 on September 24, 2026, 11:39:34 PM »
If it’s so dangerous for horses, why is it only a Class 4 (lowest) drug?
Shouldn’t it be elevated to a higher classification?
You approve of Sweet saying CUNT? Why dont you and Sweet get a room? 
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« Last post by Dingus on September 24, 2026, 11:18:33 PM »
You call yourself a Journalist, you're a fucking cowardly cunt.
Not one word about Ron Burke.
Scumbag.
You too.
You're just another that preys off racing, but when the shit hits the fan, nada.
Why the fuck are you here anyway you panzy.
You complain about the element here at plop, but Ron Burke nada.
Live with yourself, you detestable coward and journalist cover up artist.
I'm no fan of Burke. Unless it's some exotic, designer drug that has no place on the racetrack/farm, I have no problem with a trainer appealing a suspension. There MUST be uniform, universal standard rules that apply everywhere and have reciprocity. If you don't have that, your model is a joke. I also have no problem on a first offense taking the days when it's convenient. Forcing a trainer to take a suspension when he has a horse in a stakes race is not the answer in my mind. Too much potential collateral damage. Second offense, force the trainer to take the days during the meet where the positive occured and have every state honor it. Third offense, immediate suspension. Any penalty is deferred during an appeal, but lengthened if found guilty. Something along these lines.
However, this is going to be very difficult and will cost more than current to inforce. Backstretch and farms. Even if horses are coming from authorized, governed training centers, it's hard to police and govern them. But the industry must.
I admire Gural for everything he's done. However, I don't think he played fair when it came to Burke, and possibly another of his trainers. I want to see the details before I say he was wrong. I don't buy into the race office needs so and so to fill the entry box. I also don't buy into nobody wants to go against so and so because he'll boycott your overnight races. People said the same thing about David Brooks and the market would fall apart if he sold all his horses. People are saying similar things about Howard Taylor. There is no one owner, not even Burke and his partners, who are bigger than the business or the sport. If someone ever does become bigger, then you no longer have a sport of a business.
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« Last post by Dingus on September 24, 2026, 11:17:24 PM »
Easy, my friend. It’s been a while since he posted this, but look at the first sentence from Grandstand: I'm no fan of Burke. Unless it's some exotic, designer drug that has no place on the racetrack/farm, I have no problem with a trainer appealing a suspension. There MUST be uniform, universal standard rules that apply everywhere and have reciprocity. If you don't have that, your model is a joke. I also have no problem on a first offense taking the days when it's convenient. Forcing a trainer to take a suspension when he has a horse in a stakes race is not the answer in my mind. Too much potential collateral damage. Second offense, force the trainer to take the days during the meet where the positive occured and have every state honor it. Third offense, immediate suspension. Any penalty is deferred during an appeal, but lengthened if found guilty. Something along these lines.
However, this is going to be very difficult and will cost more than current to inforce. Backstretch and farms. Even if horses are coming from authorized, governed training centers, it's hard to police and govern them. But the industry must.
I admire Gural for everything he's done. However, I don't think he played fair when it came to Burke, and possibly another of his trainers. I want to see the details before I say he was wrong. I don't buy into the race office needs so and so to fill the entry box. I also don't buy into nobody wants to go against so and so because he'll boycott your overnight races. People said the same thing about David Brooks and the market would fall apart if he sold all his horses. People are saying similar things about Howard Taylor. There is no one owner, not even Burke and his partners, who are bigger than the business or the sport. If someone ever does become bigger, then you no longer have a sport of a business.
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« Last post by Sweet on September 24, 2026, 10:54:58 PM »
The audacity for you to criticize anyone here, while Ron Burke acts like a vile thug, nada Put (By User) Grandstand Handicapper here: https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?action=searchUse Burke (Search for) You'll find 3 pages of this so called journalist shill of a cunt praising, being his apologist. A phony who prances through here with that rep, well now I added to it, he's blind to the truth about the biggest name in the game. He talks about how he IGGY's some of us wayos, talks to Misfits and he's the lowest cunt on this platform. A coward, hypocrite, cry baby, loser, why that guy Ray uses him who the fuck cares. After all the insults, low blows in this toilet that I've ever heard, he bottomed everyone out, Miss Prissy Faggot Cocksucker Silence 
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« Last post by Sweet on September 24, 2026, 10:34:12 PM »
Same in MLB. While true, what is worse is when we see the blind eye, the deaf ear, and these things being swept under the rug. Lance Armstrong is the perfect example. JMO, but I think McGuire/Sosa same thing. Bob Baffert's positive in the SA Derby? Enough. No more. The sport and the industry needs to be overhauled and in many cases reconstructed. Very rocky road to get there, but it will happen.
You call yourself a Journalist, you're a fucking cowardly cunt. Not one word about Ron Burke. Scumbag. You too. You're just another that preys off racing, but when the shit hits the fan, nada. Why the fuck are you here anyway you panzy. You complain about the element here at plop, but Ron Burke nada. Live with yourself, you detestable coward and journalist cover up artist.
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« Last post by Mrpick5 on September 24, 2026, 10:33:35 PM »
Mohawk needs to hire Kenny Livengood away from that dump called Northfield. He is probably the best harness race caller in North America. Or import one of the Australian race callers.
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« Last post by rainman2 on September 24, 2026, 10:32:47 PM »
home base same track. she see's him with every win 
Brett is quite a few years younger than the rest of the upcoming drivers. Page gets a good chunk of Burke's horses. Wrenn Jr. gets some drives too! Beckwith is a north east driver with limited connections there. Give Matt Kakaley credit whether you like him or not. He was driving races at Northfield for $ 1500 purses in the winter too! Was fortunate to get the Burke 'leftovers' and finally out on his own with Alexander and Ducharme stock! He hasn't quite made the national scene yet and he is about 40 years of age now.
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I talked to Gabe Prewitt after the LBJ final, will post thoughts tomorrow 
I know what the Hambo plan is next year
Nice. Looking forward to hearing what he had to say. As far as the Hambo plan.....it's simple and pretty much common knowledge. John Campbell has openly said it. The Hambo Society is moving their race date(s).
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« Last post by TimTimTimbo on September 24, 2026, 10:31:09 PM »
I have zero respect for that POS after seeing that.
Another thing I have zero respect for on a different topic is horses retiring to stud at 3 or even 4 or even 5. That is what is wrong with the sport and until it changes, this sport is on the decline.
You have a champion he wins like 20 of 22 and off to stud he goes, Too much money too tempting yeah well even the rich fuckers that own a champ do it.
IMO a stud can serve a limited book while racing like Bulldog did, hell they could probably get 60 to 80 in foal and keep racing.
Thoughts?
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Let’s wind the clock back 50+ years.
The East German swimmers on steroids in the Olympics.
The tragedy horses in the sakes that were built like linebackers.
Lance Armstrong getting caught.
In each case this took time to be caught and dealt with.
Same in MLB. While true, what is worse is when we see the blind eye, the deaf ear, and these things being swept under the rug. Lance Armstrong is the perfect example. JMO, but I think McGuire/Sosa same thing. Bob Baffert's positive in the SA Derby? Enough. No more. The sport and the industry needs to be overhauled and in many cases reconstructed. Very rocky road to get there, but it will happen.
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