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Tom cancelliere is a top 10 trainer and seems to be as clean as the cleanest out east
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Harness Racing / Noble defies logic
« Last post by Ftknows on November 17, 2025, 10:39:17 PM »
 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
« Last post by toothman on November 17, 2025, 09:53:24 PM »
Actually, a very good thread.  The reality is no one outside the sport knows of its existence.  As a result, we get the kids of kids of kids of former horsemen.  The depth of the human talent pool is rather shallow, and there is no one standing in line to take the place of someone that isn't cutting it.  Instead, they stay in the game and add no value. 

And the irony is, many of the people listed are sub-par good drivers.  There are hundreds of others that simply aren't at all good, and could be replaced by millions of other individuals.

 tmbz1
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Harness Racing / Re: Top 10 out east swamp trainers . How many drug suspects?
« Last post by Sunmoon 1219 on November 17, 2025, 09:38:46 PM »
The thread out east is current top 10 trainers. Doubtful some of these guys are cheats others not so sure.

1.Burke
2.Cullipher
3.Daley
4.Bongiorno
5.Height
6.Engblom
7.Silva
8.Svanstedt.
9.Posner /10. McKenzie.
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Harness Racing / Re: Top 10 out east swamp trainers . How many drug suspects?
« Last post by Meadow Ford on November 17, 2025, 09:25:26 PM »
Instead of guessing about positives, why not look the trainer up on Pathway?
Cost $0.00
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Harness Racing / Re: DRIVERS WHO NEED TO STOP DRIVING :: cus they STINK 🙄🙄
« Last post by Trigger on November 17, 2025, 08:04:36 PM »
Actually, a very good thread.  The reality is no one outside the sport knows of its existence.  As a result, we get the kids of kids of kids of former horsemen.  The depth of the human talent pool is rather shallow, and there is no one standing in line to take the place of someone that isn't cutting it.  Instead, they stay in the game and add no value. 

And the irony is, many of the people listed are sub-par good drivers.  There are hundreds of others that simply aren't at all good, and could be replaced by millions of other individuals.

Sport  ngc3

Yes, athleticism and skill and strategy and competition.

In arenas that are closing down.  ngc3

Supported by welfare forced on a another predator, generally in the US, Casinos and or the government in Canada.

Where the best of the best who are future HOF's and HOF's ngc3 of what Animal Abuse and Cheating and Drugs and...  ngc3

Top notch oversight & regulatory  tmbz1 ngc3

Sure, it's a WIDELY CONSIDER a sport, not a fucking joke on it's way out?  ngc3

Might as well add Pimping, Bookmaker Collectors, Drug Slingers to that sport category too - they're just as reputable without the phony cover and have much better regulatory.   ;D

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Harness Racing / Re: Saturday night's TVG races at the Meadowlands!
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on November 17, 2025, 07:52:12 PM »
he has three online partners and that's where most of the revenue is generated

the actual revenue from live on site sports betting is a very small percentage

Yes. AI does quickly tell us it's about 30M a month in revenue tied to 3 online platforms and the very small brick and mortar space combined.
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Harness Racing / Re: Saturday night's TVG races at the Meadowlands!
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on November 17, 2025, 07:49:32 PM »
I couldn’t believe it either but they average 70/80
Million a month in revenue.

I remember reading facts that they do 30M a month in revenue. Figure 350M a year. Thats before operations costs and taxes etc and then gurals cut.

Gural aint making close to 45 stacks IMO
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Harness Racing / Re: Saturday night's TVG races at the Meadowlands!
« Last post by Papillon on November 17, 2025, 07:48:53 PM »
I couldn’t believe it either but they average 70/80
Million a month in revenue.

he has three online partners and that's where most of the revenue is generated

the actual revenue from live on site sports betting is a very small percentage
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Harness Racing / Re: Saturday night's TVG races at the Meadowlands!
« Last post by The Answer on November 17, 2025, 07:40:38 PM »
Are you absolutely sure that you are not confusing revenue with profit?

I couldn’t believe it either but they average 70/80
Million a month in revenue.
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