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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Trigger on November 19, 2025, 08:19:50 PM »
Envy HT  ngc3

Sad little boy being spanked when 150 are not getting spanked  ngc3

Tell him, I'm sowwwy for his trubles  ngc3

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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Ignorance Is Bliss on November 19, 2025, 08:19:30 PM »
     And like I said what about the 150 other owners that have the same exact bills that you’re posting on here.    Same deal nobody received any drugs nobody administered any drugs nobody even touched any drugs ,  is everybody supposed to lose their  license  because I don’t see anyone else being called in front of the commission.

Well right now he has no licenses in Kentucky, Delaware or the country of Canada because of all this. And yes the same information is out there on others while the commissions do nothing about them. Is that fair? Nope.
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Harness Racing / Re: Top 10 out east swamp trainers . How many drug suspects?
« Last post by Sakit on November 19, 2025, 08:17:03 PM »
Thanks, and I agree. I've been in this sport and business, as a racehorse owner, a stallion share owner, on occasion as a breeder, and as a bettor, my entire adult life. While I am not a vet, or an expert on drugs, and the like, just from being around for soon to be approaching a half century, for whatever it's worth-----and it is not a qualified opinion-----I don't think this is a "pre-race" discussion today. I think whatever these cheaters are using and doing it's more a "regimen" or "program" or maybe a "cycle" kind of thing. Some of these bodybuilders do these things where they "cycle on" and "cycle off"-----but maybe that's more of a "steroid" thing. I don't know.

Yes, we've all seen the overnight and drastic improvement of a horse. I don't see it anywhere near as often as I used to, and that's because it's not happening anywhere near as often as it used to. I do remember a long time ago, I saw Bill Robinson take a horse that previously wore every piece of equipment known to mankind, he took everything off, raced the horse with nothing, and one week later the horse jogged and went about 3 seconds faster. Is the equipment the only thing he did? I don't know. But one week for a program, I don't know. Yes, pre-racing still exists, but I think there's much more going on.
I had horses with Bill he was a great guy lotta fun. He hated a horse wearing a lot of equipment.
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Harness Racing / Re: everyone hates yonkers ...buy??
« Last post by Sakit on November 19, 2025, 08:11:09 PM »
Their handle is down almost 50% over the last few years...Sad. Same horses, same drivers, boring. Almost like an exclusive club that has access to millions and millions of annual welfare money.
MGM's financial statements look horrible. Contractor no contract if they want out they're out
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Harness Racing / Re: A trainer at a crossroads.....
« Last post by Sakit on November 19, 2025, 08:10:15 PM »
There was a guy years ago selling a shot 10cc of prerace he called White Lightning. I'm sure local Delaware and Maryland guys knows who I'm talking about. Trainers were buying this preface like no tomorrow including me. Then I got a shot, it was the last shot from that bottle so he just ripped the label off and said here. Well he didn't get all the label off and I discovered his 100 shot of White Lightning was Flucort! You can buy the bottle at that time for 50 bucks! And that was a100 cc bottle!
vets made a fortune pre-racing this is before Pelling and Crogan started with the tube.
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Sakit on November 19, 2025, 08:04:52 PM »
     And like I said what about the 150 other owners that have the same exact bills that you’re posting on here.    Same deal nobody received any drugs nobody administered any drugs nobody even touched any drugs ,  is everybody supposed to lose their  license  because I don’t see anyone else being called in front of the commission.
I couldn't agree more if that were to happen they wouldn't be able to fill a card
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Cashout on November 19, 2025, 07:58:34 PM »
     And like I said what about the 150 other owners that have the same exact bills that you’re posting on here.    Same deal nobody received any drugs nobody administered any drugs nobody even touched any drugs ,  is everybody supposed to lose their  license  because I don’t see anyone else being called in front of the commission.   
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Harness Racing / Re: CALI HARNESS RACING IS BACK
« Last post by Papillon on November 19, 2025, 07:56:36 PM »
Source: DRF https://share.google/TQOKdXGZfxC8B7Uew

I wouldn't get too excited

just because "dates were awarded" doesn't necessarily mean there will be racing

also, Fresno has no lights--daytime racing only supported by handle

purses will be around what Leamington has
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Harness Racing / Re: Dooomsday for Howard....or not
« Last post by Cashout on November 19, 2025, 07:48:00 PM »
     Trust the process
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Harness Racing / CALI HARNESS RACING IS BACK
« Last post by SPREE2015 on November 19, 2025, 07:43:56 PM »
According to News release California Fresno 2026 to return
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