Meadowlands 2-15-25

[SAW]

9th - 2 Lyons Steel 6,9,1

[wizardofoz]

Total Nightly Handle: $3,077,870.59

[pocketrocketwinner]

Total Nightly Handle: $3,077,870.59

That's it? With wbmh cancelled? Gural is gonna be slamming on some desks

[Papillon]

Total Nightly Handle: $3,077,870.59

it would be refreshing to see a press release from Gural/Jason about how much of the handle is Elite Turf Club

the 600lb elephant in the room is never discussed

do they honestly believe we don't know about them?

[gh2009]

They want you to think everything they do is above board and in the best interest of the horseplayer, which is total BS.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Yes, that is exactly what Gural believes...that nobody knows anything about Elite. No, it's that they don't even exist. That's even better.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Pretty direct question. What dollar amount of the nightly handle comes from Elite?
I'm pretty sure no rather exactly sure, that answer is not forthcoming from Jeff gural

[SAW]

That's it? With wbmh cancelled? Gural is gonna be slamming on some desks

Just because 1 track cancels doesn't mean another's will automatically rise.

Last Saturday when the Meadowlands cancelled Woodbine/Mohawks handle did not rise.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Just because 1 track cancels doesn't mean another's will automatically rise.

Last Saturday when the Meadowlands cancelled Woodbine/Mohawks handle did not rise.

Can you tell us all very succinctly now, how much of the handle is from Elite? You seem to be involved in some capacity.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Personally, I don't see why Gural should disclose anything. It's his business, a privately held/owned business. You play, ask, he says go play bingo, and you decide whether you want to keep playing or not. Seems pretty simple to me.

[pocketrocketwinner]

Personally, I don't see why Gural should disclose anything. It's his business, a privately held/owned business. You play, ask, he says go play bingo, and you decide whether you want to keep playing or not. Seems pretty simple to me.

Very sustainable business model. Just perfectly stated

[pocketrocketwinner]

What about the state tax payers, they can't know anything either? It's all a big mystery
 When you take the state handout, it all has to brought to the table.

[Papillon]

Personally, I don't see why Gural should disclose anything. It's his business, a privately held/owned business. You play, ask, he says go play bingo, and you decide whether you want to keep playing or not. Seems pretty simple to me.

there has been a massive decline in the number of players who have decided to continue to play his product

that's why he needs a casino

my prediction is that Gural will give up in 2-3 years--as many have said here there doesn't seem to be anyone else willing to step up and take the loss in dreams of a casino

[pocketrocketwinner]

there has been a massive decline in the number of players who have decided to continue to play his product

that's why he needs a casino

my prediction is that Gural will give up in 2-3 years--as many have said here there doesn't seem to be anyone else willing to step up and take the loss in dreams of a casino

He completely failed to mention that due to the subsidy, it's not private any more. Be weary of his kind. There are plenty of them out there. Most likely, he's an owner or a breeder or connected in some way to the subsidy.  Apparently Blair burgess was his friend. I don't know he never stops dropping names

[SAW]

He completely failed to mention that due to the subsidy, it's not private any more. Be weary of his kind. There are plenty of them out there. Most likely, he's an owner or a breeder or connected in some way to the subsidy.  Apparently Blair burgess was his friend. I don't know he never stops dropping names

WRONG........... Just because business have subsidies it doesn't negate private ownership. While many industries receive government subsidies, three of the biggest beneficiaries are energy, agriculture, and transportation.

Top 10.
1   Boeing   Industrial   $15.5B
2   Intel   Tech & Media   $8.4B
3   Ford Motor   Automotive   $7.7B
4   General Motors   Automotive   $7.5B
5   Micron Technology   Tech & Media   $6.8B
6   Amazon   Tech & Media   $5.9B
7   Alcoa   Industrial   $5.7B
8   Cheniere Energy   Energy   $5.6B
9   Foxconn Technology Group   Tech & Media   $4.8B
10   Venture Global LNG   Energy   $4.3B

10 Million for the Meadowlands is peanuts and has to be accounted for per the subsidy's guidelines....... . which are checked by the state and meet each year.

Now you may not like them or agree with them, but that and $1.00 will get you a can of soda.

Or you can run for a seat in the N.J. goverment and change the laws, but Im guessing you dont even live in New Jersey?? Correct??