Burke has 5 in final

[SDST2009]

That is a huge exaggeration. Many of the stakes races last night did not have any Burke horses.

Yes, a clear exaggeration. But the less exaggerated truth is that he does have horses in most classes in most jurisdictions (stakes or overnights). Many (most?) of the top stakes trainers do not play in that space.

[Kenny]

Yes, a clear exaggeration. But the less exaggerated truth is that he does have horses in most classes in most jurisdictions (stakes or overnights). Many (most?) of the top stakes trainers do not play in that space.

Not true. At many tracks he is only in the stakes races.

Doing a quick check of upcoming race days:

Pocono 3 races
Yonkers 2 races
Plainridge 1 race
Northfield 3 races
Chester 1 race
Red Mile 1 race

Hardly every class...

[SDST2009]

Not true. At many tracks he is only in the stakes races.

Doing a quick check of upcoming race days:

Pocono 3 races
Yonkers 2 races
Plainridge 1 race
Northfield 3 races
Chester 1 race
Red Mile 1 race

Hardly every class...

Fair enough. It certainly seems that way in the racing I watch but I do not statisticize it, so may be more my perception.

[Kenny]

Fair enough. It certainly seems that way in the racing I watch but I do not statisticize it, so may be more my perception.

In my view, Diamond Creek is a much bigger problem. They manipulated the entire industry with Confederate.  His mark was fake since it was set up by another Diamond Creek horse. They raced his in the sire stakes in PA and KY to avoid some of the grand circuit.  It was all about his stallion fee. That goes back to the government handouts. The fact is both Diamond Creek and Burke are playing the game better than others so they do better than others. The other big trainers could do what Burke does but it requires a lot more administrative work and managing a lot more people.

[SDST2009]

In my view, Diamond Creek is a much bigger problem. They manipulated the entire industry with Confederate.  His mark was fake since it was set up by another Diamond Creek horse. They raced his in the sire stakes in PA and KY to avoid some of the grand circuit.  It was all about his stallion fee. That goes back to the government handouts. The fact is both Diamond Creek and Burke are playing the game better than others so they do better than others. The other big trainers could do what Burke does but it requires a lot more administrative work and managing a lot more people.

No fan of them DCF, and I agree. That well will run dry if he doesn't make a sire, but not before they've pocketed theirs.

[Parked]

In my view, Diamond Creek is a much bigger problem. They manipulated the entire industry with Confederate.  His mark was fake since it was set up by another Diamond Creek horse. They raced his in the sire stakes in PA and KY to avoid some of the grand circuit.  It was all about his stallion fee. That goes back to the government handouts. The fact is both Diamond Creek and Burke are playing the game better than others so they do better than others. The other big trainers could do what Burke does but it requires a lot more administrative work and managing a lot more people.

The thing people miss in your post is in the last statement..
“MANAGING A LOT MORE PEOPLE”…   More than likely that goes further than just his employees of which you are one of.   

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Maybe I am way wrong because I am basing my opinion strictly on perception and not fact, as I am too lazy to look it up but it seems to me Burke doesn't spend as much on yearlings as stables like Takter, Svanstadt, Alagna.

[Kenny]

The thing people miss in your post is in the last statement..
“MANAGING A LOT MORE PEOPLE”…   More than likely that goes further than just his employees of which you are one of.

I do not work for Burke, I am a fan. The only contact I ever had with anyone in that organization is I was once standing near the winners circle taking picture of one of their top horses and lady told me to come to the other side of the fence and take my pictures.

What I have seen is how Burke had Foiled Again race in tracks all over including fairs his last year. He did something similar with Atlanta. He does not hide from heat racing and he tends to keep his horses on the track even if they have top three year old years.

[Kenny]

Maybe I am way wrong because I am basing my opinion strictly on perception and not fact, as I am too lazy to look it up but it seems to me Burke doesn't spend as much on yearlings as stables like Takter, Svanstadt, Alagna.

I think he is better at finding value.  I don't think he signs for many that are $500,000+. He also buys horses which have been racing. He may by more but not spend as much.

[Ramnap]

T-Bred trainers do the same thing, as rabbits are entered in many stake races to ensure a lively pace.

Mickey once said a long long time ago in a smelly old tack room at Northfield thats its so simple i cant believe everybody doesn't do it.

[Kenny]

Mickey once said a long long time ago in a smelly old tack room at Northfield thats its so simple i cant believe everybody doesn't do it.

He does it just like you sell cars. You can make money selling low priced used cars and high priced exotic cars and everything in between. Combine them all and you can grow and have stable cash flow.