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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2024, 04:24:08 PM »
Anyone would love to own him. Without question. That's not really the issue. Even after his 2yo year he wasn't getting on anyone's GOAT list. History books will memorialize him as winning the Hambo....but experts, breeders, etc., will know that he wasn't the best horse that day, and he got lucky winning it. But, the check still cleared! LOL.

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« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2024, 04:26:18 PM »
LOL! I believe you are right!!!!! LOL!

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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2024, 09:21:09 PM »
ANSWER would you like to make a $1,000 bet that Karl's fee is 30K and gets a full book of 125 mares of which 60% or more have to be mares that are not owned by Diamond Creek or associates? Adam has learned his lesson on ridiculous first year stud fees. I bet your not even close ANSWER.

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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2024, 10:07:06 PM »
They paid 12 mil so you do the math.

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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2024, 11:15:57 PM »
They did not pay $12mm. Not even close. Saying that a horse will be syndicated for $12mm doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form, that someone is getting paid $12mm. It's posturing and marketing. Nothing more.

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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2024, 11:25:46 PM »
If they set the stud fee at $25k or more---they will absolutely announce that his book is full and closed. Because they have to! If they don't, the entire market will know the farm couldn't get other commercial breeders to support and breed to this horse. So announcing that his book is full and closed means zero. Less than zero.

You have to have a copy of the syndicate agreement and understand how modern day syndications work. If his stud fee is set at $25k or more, bet your last dollars that at the end of the second (breeding season) year---even if, and it's a mostrous even if---even if he bred 120 mares, check two things. One get a list of the mares bred. Two, look at the pooled stud fee(s) distributions. You will see a fraction of the 120 mares actually paid the advertised stud fee.

No Nukes and Jate Lobell are just two of the reasons why modern day syndications are very, very different than all those years ago.

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Re: Kentuckey Futurity
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2024, 10:09:49 AM »
Tactical Approach stands for 12k doesn’t have half the credentials as Karl. 25/30k realistic and book will be full and closed within hours. Been bleeding in Lexington and poorly managed by Takter. Will race on Lasix in BC.

King of the North stood for $12k and his book was full.  Karl has to be at least $15k - $20k

 

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