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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: darnoldrocks on April 15, 2026, 12:50:14 PM
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Mike isn't big on suggestions or opinions, so I'm confident this will go over like a lead balloon, but anyway!!
If advocacy for the humane treatment of Standardbred horses is Mike's passion and purpose, his energy and investigative skill should be directed toward an intervention that will have the greatest positive outcome.
Directing energy toward one trainer or one owner or one racing administration, will only result in change relative to the size of that players barn or that administrators reach. A very finite number of horses are safer or humanely handles.
Why not go after an intervention that would result in 10's of 1000's of horses being disposed of in the most humane way possible after their racing value has finished. Today a majority of them end up in inhumane service industries or worse still, horrific end of life kill pens.
Mike, go after a big piece of legislation that would require all Standardbred Horses to meet their end of life, either by natural causes on a retirement farm, (impossible to handle the numbers) or by humane, vet administered euthanasia. Whoever is on record, owning that animal at the time, is responsible for the cost.
All comments welcome.
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You're suggesting Mike work in pro-equine as a LOBBYIST.
A lot of wasted chatter otherwise from a Chihuahua Cock. ngc3
Mike gives him the number, dude says he owns horses, has a shit ton of criticism, advice...not a peep to come on live. ngc3
A neutered Chihuahua Cock! ;D
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Mike isn't big on suggestions or opinions, so I'm confident this will go over like a lead balloon, but anyway!!
If advocacy for the humane treatment of Standardbred horses is Mike's passion and purpose, his energy and investigative skill should be directed toward an intervention that will have the greatest positive outcome.
Directing energy toward one trainer or one owner or one racing administration, will only result in change relative to the size of that players barn or that administrators reach. A very finite number of horses are safer or humanely handles.
Why not go after an intervention that would result in 10's of 1000's of horses being disposed of in the most humane way possible after their racing value has finished. Today a majority of them end up in inhumane service industries or worse still, horrific end of life kill pens.
Mike, go after a big piece of legislation that would require all Standardbred Horses to meet their end of life, either by natural causes on a retirement farm, (impossible to handle the numbers) or by humane, vet administered euthanasia. Whoever is on record, owning that animal at the time, is responsible for the cost.
All comments welcome.
Where have you been? Maybe go scroll through the years of work on my Facebook group. One trainer or individual? Dude... ngc3 And btw, why just me???
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Where have you been? Maybe go scroll through the years of work on my Facebook group. One trainer or individual? Dude... ngc3 And btw, why just me???
Sorry, I have not followed your facebook group over the years, but I think my point would stand that going after individuals one or more at a time, even over years, has a positive outcome for a limited number of horses. Euthanasia legislation would become the responsibility of every standardbred horse owner, affecting 10's of 1000's of equine athletes and it would be enforceable.
Why you?
It is clearly your passion.
You know the business and the players.
You are already dedicating many hours to equine advocacy.
Why not you!!
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Where have you been? Maybe go scroll through the years of work on my Facebook group. One trainer or individual? Dude... ngc3 And btw, why just me???
Sorry, I have not followed your facebook group over the years, but I think my point would stand that going after individuals one or more at a time, even over years, has a positive outcome for a limited number of horses. Euthanasia legislation would become the responsibility of every standardbred horse owner, affecting 10's of 1000's of equine athletes and it would be enforceable.
Why you?
It is clearly your passion.
You know the business and the players.
You are already dedicating many hours to equine advocacy.
Why not you!!
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Suggestion for Mike Petrelli GET A LIFE!!! AND A JOB!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Suggestion for Mike Petrelli GET A LIFE!!! AND A JOB!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
You bleed envy of Mike out of every pore, we get it, and really understand your fear of stepping up to the plate from your mouse hole and introducing yourself ngc3
Furthermore don't be angry because....
Your fortune cookie said...
"Hey asshole, harness racing is a fucked up mess with no future!" ;D
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Darnoldrocks means well. Just doesn't realize how much I've covered over the past few years. Two months ago a gentleman personally presented NYS Assemblywoman Carrie Woerner my bio and statement regarding horse racing in NYS and all the ugly truth to go.with it. Again, it's all on my Facebook group well documented. This is what Carrie leads...
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Mike, that's fantastic that you already have the connection.
Did any discussions or statements on horse retirement, include the reality that retirement farms is probably unrealistic based on the sheer numbers, and that humane euthanasia is far more palatable than inhumane kill pens/slaughter?
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Mike, that's fantastic that you already have the connection.
Did any discussions or statements on horse retirement, include the reality that retirement farms is probably unrealistic based on the sheer numbers, and that humane euthanasia is far more palatable than inhumane kill pens/slaughter?
Unrealistic ngc3
Harness Racing is full of and run by scum, that should all drop dead if they're not for these horses living out their retirement lifespan with the best possible accommodations and benefits!
I can only think of one being on this planet that deserves euthanasia, a real living garbage person ...Chihuahua Cock ;D
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Darnoldrocks means well. Just doesn't realize how much I've covered over the past few years. Two months ago a gentleman personally presented NYS Assemblywoman Carrie Woerner my bio and statement regarding horse racing in NYS and all the ugly truth to go.with it. Again, it's all on my Facebook group well documented. This is what Carrie leads...
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Mike, I've often wondered how certain people get these committees. Does this Assemblywoman have any experience with the horse racing industry? What qualifies her to make or suggest policy initiatives? At least Florida's Rep. was from a horse racing family. It didn't help anyway. But at least he had some knowledge of the sport.
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Dougie, were you too busy spinning a dreidel for cash when they taught...
Googling ngc3
The answer is universal pretty much in any state and at the federal level.
"In the New York State Assembly, committee assignments are primarily determined by the Speaker of the Assembly."
Maybe they take into consideration experience... ;D
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I think that when it comes to horse racing, these people should have a iota of what a horse looks like. LOL! Otherwise, they are "empty suits" who can't address a problem they don't understand.
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I think that when it comes to horse racing, these people should have a iota of what a horse looks like. LOL! Otherwise, they are "empty suits" who can't address a problem they don't understand.
What's the difference Dougie, they have expereince to run a better scam.
They have no integrity they're no good.
Look at the state of things.
Horses are getting drugged, they're cheating and the wrong doers are getting every fucking handout imaginable.
Many Someones are getting a fat envelope.
Retirement horses, they're savages these bastards.
They are destroying them on the track they are going sacrifice purse money so they have a life off track.
Talking is done, you have to become more evil to get things done until people wake up, educate and elect sober, intelligent people with stamina and inspiration.
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What's the difference Dougie, they have expereince to run a better scam.
They have no integrity they're no good.
Look at the state of things.
Horses are getting drugged, they're cheating and the wrong doers are getting every fucking handout imaginable.
Many Someones are getting a fat envelope.
Retirement horses, they're savages these bastards.
They are destroying them on the track they are going sacrifice purse money so they have a life off track.
Talking is done, you have to become more evil to get things done until people wake up, educate and elect sober, intelligent people with stamina and inspiration.
I agree. I have to tell you that Mike P. kind of opened my eyes. I know it's been over 30 years, but I was told all four of my horses went to the Amish. Now I ask myself, did they really go there? Or did something else happen? I'll never know for sure what happened to those horses. Geez.....
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Mike, I've often wondered how certain people get these committees. Does this Assemblywoman have any experience with the horse racing industry? What qualifies her to make or suggest policy initiatives? At least Florida's Rep. was from a horse racing family. It didn't help anyway. But at least he had some knowledge of the sport.
Dougie, you seem to be a reasonable fan of standardbred racing.
What do you think is the most "responsible" and "realistic" way to deal with the thousands of equine athletes retired every year?
As far as I can tell, the options are:
1. Service / entertainment animals (Amish buggy horses, tourist buggy horses, riding horses)
2. Retirement farms ($500 per month for life of the horse)
3. Slaughtered for meat (revenue for owner)
4. Humanely euthanized (one time cost to owner)
5. Shut down all horse sports completely (Tbreds, Sbreds, Equestrian, Polo)
Glen
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Even if I technically owned a horse, I'd consider that horse part of my family.
Every animal in my life it was like that.
Animals are not slaves, and horses are animals.
I don't want to fight with you Dougie, or be judgemental.
That's me.
I also never owned / had a horse family member.
When animals know your family they allow you to become part of their pack.
That's a beautiful life.
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Dougie, you seem to be a reasonable fan of standardbred racing.
What do you think is the most "responsible" and "realistic" way to deal with the thousands of equine athletes retired every year?
As far as I can tell, the options are:
1. Service / entertainment animals (Amish buggy horses, tourist buggy horses, riding horses)
2. Retirement farms ($500 per month for life of the horse)
3. Slaughtered for meat (revenue for owner)
4. Humanely euthanized (one time cost to owner)
5. Shut down all horse sports completely (Tbreds, Sbreds, Equestrian, Polo)
Glen
How about horses get their health assessed.
Then they have options.
See what's best for them on what they like and their abilities.
Or just being a horse and not serving humans at all, and humans serving them.
Is it Glen Chihuahua Cock now? ngc3
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Glen, when I owned horses at Pompano, I remember every friday morning a number of horses were vanned to the Amish. My trainer told me my four (over a three year period) were all going there. Mike P. kind of made me think. How would I know if that was really where they went? I think that points #1 & 2 seem reasonable. Maybe a percentage of handle should go into a fund designated for retired horses. I'm against point 3 & 4. And point #5 is unattainable. I have read, watched, and listened to Mikes podcast. Seen the pics he posted. Makes me sick. I have to think that there are at least a few decent people in the game who care about the horses. Outside of making money on them.
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I think that points #1 & 2 seem reasonable.
Why don't you do 1 & 2 for your whole fucking family including yourself ngc3
Reasonable, who the fuck are you? ngc3
Fucking assholes rule the world! ;D
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Why don't you do 1 & 2 for your whole fucking family including yourself ngc3
Reasonable, who the fuck are you? ngc3
Fucking assholes rule the world! ;D
Trig, I would have thought you'd think #2 would be a good thing. About 10 years ago, we went to Churchill Downs for a tour and they took us to a retirement farm for throughbreds. I never asked how it was funded though.
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Trig, I would have thought you'd think #2 would be a good thing. About 10 years ago, we went to Churchill Downs for a tour and they took us to a retirement farm for throughbreds. I never asked how it was funded though.
Glen Chihuahua Cock serves you 5 plates of shit and you choose to eat any of it... ngc3
This is what I posted to that...read or look up...
How about horses get their health assessed.
Then they have options.
See what's best for them on what they like and their abilities.
Or just being a horse and not serving humans at all, and humans serving them.
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Even if I technically owned a horse, I'd consider that horse part of my family.
Every animal in my life it was like that.
Animals are not slaves, and horses are animals.
I don't want to fight with you Dougie, or be judgemental.
That's me.
I also never owned / had a horse family member.
When animals know your family they allow you to become part of their pack.
That's a beautiful life.
Believe me when I tell you, I would do things a lot differently if I knew what I know now. No fighting my friend. Just a discussion.
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Believe me when I tell you, I would do things a lot differently if I knew what I know now. No fighting my friend. Just a discussion.
I don't judge a person by each and every post, not the last, just the next...
Chihuahua Cock is just that...the absolute worst, I don't give a fuck if he's a jew or not or white or black or Dem or Rep.
I miss nothing in this mother fucker including how y'all actually think and feel and what the fuck you'll say next.
Another thing that went wrong in this forum.
This ain't Hebrew, Catholic, Atheist school it's Plop. Period.
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Glen, when I owned horses at Pompano, I remember every friday morning a number of horses were vanned to the Amish. My trainer told me my four (over a three year period) were all going there. Mike P. kind of made me think. How would I know if that was really where they went? I think that points #1 & 2 seem reasonable. Maybe a percentage of handle should go into a fund designated for retired horses. I'm against point 3 & 4. And point #5 is unattainable. I have read, watched, and listened to Mikes podcast. Seen the pics he posted. Makes me sick. I have to think that there are at least a few decent people in the game who care about the horses. Outside of making money on them.
Yours is a reasonable answer. 1 and 2 are your preferences.
Here's the issues with those.
1. Mike would tell you being a buggy horse is inhumane. I will tell you, many of the Amish horses are going for meat. This option wouldn't even come close to handling the horses available.
2. Think of an owner that buys 10 horses per year. 5 of those horses are still racing after a year. That owner will be paying for 5 retirees per year. 5 x $500 per month = $30k/year
Sorry, never going to happen. For most owners, these aren't pets, they are expenses and when they don't come close to covering costs, they are gone.
Sorry, but this is the reality of the decisions that need to be made and the 1000's of horses that need to be retired/disposed of each year.
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I judge a person by each and every post, not the last, just the next...
Chihuahua Cock is just that...the absolute worst, I don't give a fuck if he's a jew or not or white or black or Dem or Rep.
I miss nothing in this mother fucker including how y'all actually think and feel and what the fuck you'll say next.
Another thing that went wrong in this forum.
This ain't Hebrew, Catholic, Atheist school it's Plop. Period.
Hey, I try not to take it to serious. I'm to old to let the comments aggravate me. I do enjoy the the horse talk and handicapping of some of the "plopsters". Like you, I'd like to make a nice score once in awhile too. Tomorrow, I take a trip down to Plainridge.
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Hey, I try not to take it to serious. I'm to old to let the comments aggravate me. I do enjoy the the horse talk and handicapping of some of the "plopsters". Like you, I'd like to make a nice score once in awhile too. Tomorrow, I take a trip down to Plainridge.
That's why I'm getting crazy.
I need to let all my energies absorb into capping and psychic work lol.
It's humbling too, I'm ok with that.
I think we all need to be grounded, that's my grounding.
Doesn't mean winning is bad, you still ground and are exhausted anyway.
Bust ass Sunday forward and then things loosen up and the week's tail to get back to that hobby.
Degenerate gambler, nigga please, I don't particularly like risking money, I'm fortunate that my wagering is way within my financial comfort zone.
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Hey, I try not to take it to serious. I'm to old to let the comments aggravate me. I do enjoy the the horse talk and handicapping of some of the "plopsters". Like you, I'd like to make a nice score once in awhile too. Tomorrow, I take a trip down to Plainridge.
Dougie, I am simply presenting the ethical questions that need to be discussed and answered if we are truly concerned about the humane treatment of these athletes at retirement. We can ignore the question and tell ourselves these horses are all living nice lives on beautiful retirement properties, but that just isn't true.
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Fucking whack job ngc3
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Hey, I try not to take it to serious. I'm to old to let the comments aggravate me. I do enjoy the the horse talk and handicapping of some of the "plopsters". Like you, I'd like to make a nice score once in awhile too. Tomorrow, I take a trip down to Plainridge.
Everyone found Lucparks stories interesting.
It would be interesting to ask him where his 107 horses are today??
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Everyone found Lucparks stories interesting.
It would be interesting to ask him where his 107 horses are today??
I actually have a partial list of them!
PM me and I'll send them to you!
100% serious offer!
no strings attached with no political overtones in any way, shape, and form!
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Everyone found Lucparks stories interesting.
It would be interesting to ask him where his 107 horses are today??
I did enjoy listening to Lucpark yesterday. I realized from his comments that I have no clue about racing on the Midwest circuit. LOL! I have heard of a few folks he mentioned. But most, I had no clue about. LOL!
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I actually have a partial list of them!
PM me and I'll send them to you!
100% serious offer!
no strings attached with no political overtones in any way, shape, and form!
I figured you'd know about his horses. You know him a long time!