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Title: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 10, 2025, 10:16:59 AM
We have all heard
 "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink", but can you teach a horse to crap every time in a designated spot in their stall?
If so How?
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 17, 2025, 09:44:27 PM
Here is a trivia question that brings back memories for me.....

Nihilator had 35 wins in 38 career races

can you name the three horses who won those races that he lost?

one is obvious-the other two-not so much

Mikeyo should surely get this
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 12:44:53 PM
Here is a trivia question that brings back memories for me.....

Nihilator had 35 wins in 38 career races

can you name the three horses who won those races that he lost?

one is obvious-the other two-not so much

Mikeyo should surely get this
On a like note.
What horse beat Nihilator, but did not win the race, and then stood in IL. to change the color of IL. racing?
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 12:47:49 PM
On a like note.
What horse beat Nihilator, but did not win the race, and then stood in IL. to change the color of IL. racing?

Marauder is the only possible answer
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: JT on August 18, 2025, 01:07:12 PM
Here is a trivia question that brings back memories for me.....

Nihilator had 35 wins in 38 career races

can you name the three horses who won those races that he lost?

one is obvious-the other two-not so much

Mikeyo should surely get this
Om my lunch break.. one for sure is Dragons Lair when he was 2 his only loss that year. My other guesses would be Maurader and Pershing Square
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 01:12:51 PM
Marauder is the only possible answer
Are you sure?
Did Marauder ever stand in IL.?
How could Marauder change the color of IL.racing?
A very good guess,but wrong.
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 01:16:49 PM
Om my lunch break.. one for sure is Dragons Lair when he was 2 his only loss that year. My other guesses would be Maurader and Pershing Square

you nailed 2 of 3 tmbz1

Marauder did beat Nihilator at The Meadows


the 3rd one is very obscure --but I recall it vividly

I can provide a hint--the horse was a 50/1 shot driven by Ron Waples
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 01:21:16 PM
Are you sure?
Did Marauder ever stand in IL.?
How could Marauder change the color of IL.racing?
A very good guess,but wrong.

I am not sure--it is all a blur

I guessed Marauder because only 3 horses beat Nihilator and Dragons Lair wasnt a great sire

my other guess is the answer to my trivia question and it could be him but I don't think he was
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 01:55:05 PM
Are you sure?
Did Marauder ever stand in IL.?
How could Marauder change the color of IL.racing?
A very good guess,but wrong.

ok I cheated

it was Broadway Express who barely nipped Nihilator for 2nd money in the Dragons Lair race

I was wrong
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 01:57:13 PM


Marauder did beat Nihilator at The Meadows and just nipped him for 2nd in his other loss there --so technically Marauder finished ahead of Nihilator 2x...which is pretty incredible




Think back to The Meadows Breeders Crown Final.
Are you sure Marauder just nipped Nikilator for second?
Might it not have been a horse of a different color?
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 02:04:06 PM
Yes Broadway Express.
He was roan in color.
All his first adds touted that "Broadway will change the color of IL. racing.
Many of his foals were roan so he did just that, and there were many of them.
A Broadway from an Albatross mare was like money in the bank.
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 02:05:55 PM
Yes Broadway Express.
He was roan in color.
All his first adds touted that "Broadway will change the color of IL. racing.
Many of his foals were roan so he did just that, and there were many of them.

thanks for the correction-i thought it was Marauder

I should know better than to try and hang with you older guys

your memories are incredible tmbz1
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 03:02:58 PM
Here is a little Jeff Mallet story.
Dragons Lair's driver.
Atlantic City Race Course.
Early 70's.
Jeff hears some of us talking about going to the shores on Sundays.
Jeff asks if he can go along.
I say "Sure I will pick you up at your barn 10:00 Sunday morning".
Sunday morning I drive up.
Sidney (The Dad) comes out.
"I don't think Jeffery should go with you boys today".
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 03:16:28 PM


I should know better than to try and hang with you older guys

your memories are incredible tmbz1
As per Ronald Reagan.
"We won't hold your youth against you".
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 03:22:51 PM
Here is a little Jeff Mallet story.
Dragons Lair's driver.
Atlantic City Race Course.
Early 70's.
Jeff hears some of us talking about going to the shores on Sundays.
Jeff asks if he can go along.
I say "Sure I will pick you up at your barn 10:00 Sunday morning".
Sunday morning I drive up.
Sidney (The Dad) comes out.
"I don't think Jeffery should go with you boys today".

I have no knowledge about Jeff, but reportedly has was a prick and wasn't liked by the entire backstretch

they did say those same folks wanted him to beat Nihilator and he trained him very hard and for two heats, whereas Haughton pretty much took it easy on Nihilator

upon watching the replay--Pershing Square could have made life much tougher on Mallet in the first 3/8ths of a mile
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 03:26:29 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8eHx2_Eb0&pp=ygUXbmloaWxhdG9yIGhhcm5lc3MgaG9yc2U%3D
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 08:20:08 PM
Here is a trivia question that brings back memories for me.....

Nihilator had 35 wins in 38 career races

can you name the three horses who won those races that he lost?

one is obvious-the other two-not so much

Mikeyo should surely get this

the 3rd horse to my trivia question is mentioned during this race call

https://youtu.be/wkHmUSMbrTw?si=yS89fRmUkRixhsJt

I was a little bit off--he was 34/1

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/11/22/Armbro-Dallas-a-34-1-long-shot-driven-by-Ron/3880501483600/
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: JT on August 18, 2025, 08:42:56 PM
the 3rd horse to my trivia question is mentioned during this race call

https://youtu.be/wkHmUSMbrTw?si=yS89fRmUkRixhsJt

I was a little bit off--he was 34/1

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/11/22/Armbro-Dallas-a-34-1-long-shot-driven-by-Ron/3880501483600/
I never would have guessed him.
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 18, 2025, 09:04:11 PM
I never would have guessed him.

the only reason I remember because " I was there"

looking back--i was lucky to live in NJ to see so many superstars live and in person at GSP , Freehold and M1
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 18, 2025, 10:02:42 PM
the only reason I remember because " I was there"

looking back--i was lucky to live in NJ to see so many superstars live and in person at GSP , Freehold and M1
Did you ever go to Atlantic City Race Course in the early 70's!
It was a great place to race.
Haughton, Dancer, Miller, ETC sent their two year olds there from Pompano. Lots of barns, green grass, and a good track kitchen where everyone went for breakfast.
Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Papillon on August 19, 2025, 09:48:12 AM
Did you ever go to Atlantic City Race Course in the early 70's!
It was a great place to race.
Haughton, Dancer, Miller, ETC sent their two year olds there from Pompano. Lots of barns, green grass, and a good track kitchen where everyone went for breakfast.

just before my time

my father started taking me to the AC track(tbreds) the year after the GSP fire(another "I was there")--around 1977

the south jersey scene was rapidly changing as casinos just started at Resorts International

we had Keystone Racetrack in the winter and night time tbreds in the summer--even saw a few Jersey Derbies there(daytime cards)--well waited for the new Garden State Park to be built--which it was in 1984(opening night was the night Villanova beat Georgetown in the NCAA title game)-but turned out to be a big flop, built by con artist Robert Brennan whose ITB way overspent-and the tbreds failed soon after-but not after bringing us Spend A Buck--harness racing was a success there, only about a 15 minute drive from my parents house-i was there every night--.. saw Nihilator, Mack Lobell, Flak Bait, and many more famous horses... the March of Dimes trot--featuring Mack, Ourasi and the winner Sugarcane Hanover

so I was a tad young to see live harness racing at the AC track

my first trip to a harness track was Liberty Bell around 1977 and in the winter we would do double-headers-Keystone during the day, dinner then Liberty Bell at night which was about 3 miles away--one of my first trips I saw Meadow Blue Chip-one of the first really good mares for the Blue Chip guys

I will never forget those cold Sunday nights at Liberty Bell--where I first fell in love with a speed horse named My Bill Forwood-who would dominate our Preferred pace then go back to YR/RR after he was kicked out for being too dominant at LB

those were the days-great memories


Title: Re: Aug. Trivia
Post by: Meadow Ford on August 19, 2025, 12:34:44 PM
Thanks for sharing!
By the late 70's I was back in the mid-west raising a family, training horses, and doing a little farming on the family farm.
I won with the last three horse I drove at Liberty Bell. 1973
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