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Title: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Needles on April 27, 2025, 08:47:33 PM
 11.wp  11.wp  73cv.2
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Needles on April 27, 2025, 09:19:09 PM
To the face  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: titans1127 on April 27, 2025, 09:33:39 PM
Context?
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 27, 2025, 09:42:49 PM
Beard trainers galore....how ridiculous has this sport become
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on April 27, 2025, 11:29:38 PM
Cole Olson whipped Corey Braden in the face after a race
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Onthefront11 on April 27, 2025, 11:35:13 PM
Another nut
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 28, 2025, 12:11:58 AM
Today????
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on April 28, 2025, 09:09:17 PM
New stable name owning a bunch.  Hadn’t seen the name until this meet.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 28, 2025, 10:17:55 PM
Lucky Lilly Belle,,,,,cover-up for Wagner
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Tree Trunk on April 29, 2025, 12:25:41 AM
Cole Olson whipped Corey Braden in the face after a race

Corey Braden put his hands on Cole FIRST. shoving him etc.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Swandre on April 29, 2025, 12:38:49 AM
Corey Braden put his hands on Cole FIRST. shoving him etc.

So? You don’t whip a guy in the face 😂
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on April 29, 2025, 06:35:29 AM
Lucky Lilly Belle,,,,,cover-up for Wagner

No kidding.  I’m too lazy to look to see whose name is attached to it.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 29, 2025, 08:01:51 AM
https://youtu.be/C9CUfFI1ono
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 08:56:39 AM
Corey Braden put his hands on Cole FIRST. shoving him etc.
    Braden is a MORON!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 09:15:58 AM
Lucky Lilly Belle,,,,,cover-up for Wagner
     
    No cover up thats his Stables name
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 29, 2025, 09:36:52 AM
It is registered under a Women's name from Culpepper, Virginia and was just established before KELSEY WAGNER transferred 11 horses to it
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 09:42:03 AM
It is registered under a Women's name from Culpepper, Virginia and was just established before KELSEY WAGNER transferred 11 horses to it
  Ok, but if you and I know it right away how's it a cover up?
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Birdfantammy on April 29, 2025, 09:44:52 AM
It is registered under a Women's name from Culpepper, Virginia and was just established before KELSEY WAGNER transferred 11 horses to it

Just another reason I won't play Shenandoah.  I figured Wagner horses would be running there under someone elses name.  Been trying to figure out if he has a beard at Rosecroft also.   Criminal pos.  I think Rosecroft has been making sure he isn't running horses there and he was banned from being on grounds.  9 horses testing positive was sick.  He should be in jail and banned for life from ALL tracks!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: seen2much on April 29, 2025, 09:51:01 AM
The 9 race Sunday card handle was around 40K. Most races under 4K in handle.

The 9 race Saturday card handle was around 55K.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 29, 2025, 09:56:37 AM
  Ok, but if you and I know it right away how's it a cover up?

Look....Wagner is now on PLOP.....LOL
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on April 29, 2025, 10:08:48 AM
  Ok, but if you and I know it right away how's it a cover up?

They are trying to cover it up bozo.  I hope the daughter gets locked up/suspended for this. 
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Tree Trunk on April 29, 2025, 10:49:24 AM
So? You don’t whip a guy in the face 😂

Corey Braden should’ve never put his hands on Olsen first. Jerk off got what he was asking for.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 29, 2025, 11:05:08 AM
They are trying to cover it up bozo.  I hope the daughter gets locked up/suspended for this.

Word I got from down there was 60 days each. Guess wait till Friday see if it's in the USTA blurb.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: HarnessFan1981 on April 29, 2025, 11:15:35 AM
04/27/2025    Y   04/28/2025   IR   Fighting

Additional Details:
Driver Cole Olsen engaged in a physical altercation with another driver coming off the Shenandoah Downs racetrack after the conclusion of the 7th race on April 27th, 2025. His actions are detrimental to the best interests of harness racing. As a result, Olsen is issued a 60-day full suspension from April 28th, 2025 through June 26th, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Virginia Racing Commission. Aggravating factors were considered in the determination of this penalty. 11VAC10-60-10.Y.   
Full suspension - 60 days:
04/28/2025 - 06/26/2025

04/27/2025    Y   04/28/2025   IR   Fighting

Additional Details:
Driver Corey Braden engaged in a physical altercation with another driver coming off the Shenandoah Downs racetrack after the conclusion of the 7th race on April 27th, 2025. His actions are detrimental to the best interests of harness racing. As a result, Braden is issued a 60-day full suspension from April 28th, 2025 through June 26th, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Virginia Racing Commission. Aggravating factors were considered in the determination of this penalty. 11VAC10-60-10.Y.   
Full suspension - 60 days:
04/28/2025 - 06/26/2025
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Kirbys Ace on April 29, 2025, 11:19:41 AM
What judge approved the transfer from Kelsey Wagner to Luck Lilly Belle stables?
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 29, 2025, 11:26:07 AM
04/27/2025    Y   04/28/2025   IR   Fighting

Additional Details:
Driver Cole Olsen engaged in a physical altercation with another driver coming off the Shenandoah Downs racetrack after the conclusion of the 7th race on April 27th, 2025. His actions are detrimental to the best interests of harness racing. As a result, Olsen is issued a 60-day full suspension from April 28th, 2025 through June 26th, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Virginia Racing Commission. Aggravating factors were considered in the determination of this penalty. 11VAC10-60-10.Y.   
Full suspension - 60 days:
04/28/2025 - 06/26/2025

04/27/2025    Y   04/28/2025   IR   Fighting

Additional Details:
Driver Corey Braden engaged in a physical altercation with another driver coming off the Shenandoah Downs racetrack after the conclusion of the 7th race on April 27th, 2025. His actions are detrimental to the best interests of harness racing. As a result, Braden is issued a 60-day full suspension from April 28th, 2025 through June 26th, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Virginia Racing Commission. Aggravating factors were considered in the determination of this penalty. 11VAC10-60-10.Y.   
Full suspension - 60 days:
04/28/2025 - 06/26/2025

Good, time for boxing lessons.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 12:57:39 PM
They are trying to cover it up bozo.  I hope the daughter gets locked up/suspended for this.
   They arent trying to cover up anything, moron.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 29, 2025, 01:17:14 PM
Bozo...wake up
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 01:18:21 PM
 
Bozo...wake up
11.wp
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on April 29, 2025, 01:21:51 PM
Full Video:
https://youtube.com/shorts/JzTkwzUMNfE?feature=share
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 29, 2025, 03:49:22 PM
What judge approved the transfer from Kelsey Wagner to Luck Lilly Belle stables?

Transfer done directly through USTA....JOHN WAGNER transferred over 85 horses to his daughter KELSEY.....then 40 were transferred to different people from KELSEY......11 TO LUCKY LILLY BELL.   ....all on the same day.....USTA DOESN'T REALLY CARE
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on April 29, 2025, 04:52:28 PM
Corruption at its finest!  That’s why bettors and owners are leaving by the bus load!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Birdfantammy on April 29, 2025, 05:28:33 PM
Transfer done directly through USTA....JOHN WAGNER transferred over 85 horses to his daughter KELSEY.....then 40 were transferred to different people from KELSEY......11 TO LUCKY LILLY BELL.   ....all on the same day.....USTA DOESN'T REALLY CARE

My guess is that Wagner couldn't get a license approval again.  His suspension should be over with (think it ended this month).  But he would have to re apply and get approved and I have a feeling they said no to that so he's going a different route (not surprising)  They really just don't care.  If they did ..they would NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

Wagner shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a racetrack nor anyone he is related to, friends with , etc!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Riding the rail on April 29, 2025, 07:46:08 PM
Truedat  tmbz1
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 29, 2025, 10:45:21 PM
Evidently the transfers were legal or they would not have been allowed.....
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Onthefront11 on April 29, 2025, 10:51:38 PM
John Wagner how many horses has he killed?
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Way to go on April 30, 2025, 12:12:30 AM
Evidently the transfers were legal or they would not have been allowed.....

OMG.....legal my ass....USTA just wants the transfer money.....there's nothing legal about any of these transactions..... death of an industry....no one to police the corruption
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 30, 2025, 09:47:01 AM
OMG.....legal my ass....USTA just wants the transfer money.....there's nothing legal about any of these transactions..... death of an industry....no one to police the corruption

   Whats illegal about which transfer and why?   Show me the ruling that makes any of these transfers illegal.......
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Riding the rail on April 30, 2025, 01:08:47 PM
No one is smarter enough to allow that rule ngc3
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on April 30, 2025, 06:05:15 PM
   Whats illegal about which transfer and why?   Show me the ruling that makes any of these transfers illegal.......

It’s hidden ownership for someone suspended, doesn’t matter whose name it was transferred into.  And yes, hidden ownership is a rule and illegal.  Tough to prove sometimes, especially when they don’t want to catch it!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on April 30, 2025, 09:02:44 PM
It’s hidden ownership for someone suspended, doesn’t matter whose name it was transferred into.  And yes, hidden ownership is a rule and illegal.  Tough to prove sometimes, especially when they don’t want to catch it!   tmbz1

I'm aware of hidden ownership but someone said Wagner's suspension is over and it looks like these are not hidden...
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: All trot on April 30, 2025, 09:15:53 PM
Not over n will probably never get a license again
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: bello on April 30, 2025, 09:23:32 PM
Not over n will probably never get a license again

Cant tell you how many times I heard that. And yes, this is a beard stable
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Birdfantammy on April 30, 2025, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: All trot link=topic=80251.msg1200785POSITIV#msg1200785 date=1746062153
Not over n will probably never get a license again.  He had somewhere around 9 positives in a course of a week or two.  He's done.  But they should make sure he has no hand in the pot and he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a racetrack or barn. 



Suspension was up the 12th.  I knew it was up this month but he will never get a license again. 
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Trainer John Wagner, for being the trainer of record on sample #E720227 taken from TALK
TO ME ARTIE on March 12th, 2024 at Rosecroft Raceway, was found to contain ADBFubinaca. As a result, Wagner must return all purse monies. Additionally, TALK TO ME
ARTIE is disqualified, finishing first and placed ninth, and is placed on the steward’s list
from April 18th, 2024 through April 12th, 2025 (360 days).

https://ustrottingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Rulings-04262024.pdf
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Riding the rail on April 30, 2025, 11:13:19 PM
You live by the sword, you die by the sword, get rid of Brayden and Wagner Paquette three dirt bags bad for the game 11.wp 11.wp tmbz1 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt 11.dt :) :) 11.dt :) :) 11.dnc 76za.dcg 52za.bkk 52za.bkk 52za.bkk 52za.bkk
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: titans1127 on May 01, 2025, 09:36:11 AM
Suspension was up the 12th.  I knew it was up this month but he will never get a license again. 
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Trainer John Wagner, for being the trainer of record on sample #E720227 taken from TALK
TO ME ARTIE on March 12th, 2024 at Rosecroft Raceway, was found to contain ADBFubinaca. As a result, Wagner must return all purse monies. Additionally, TALK TO ME
ARTIE is disqualified, finishing first and placed ninth, and is placed on the steward’s list
from April 18th, 2024 through April 12th, 2025 (360 days).

https://ustrottingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Rulings-04262024.pdf
Hes gone until December

POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
  Synthetic cannabis
  (Class 1)
The Maryland Racing Commission conducted several hearings in response to an appeal made by John Wagner in response to Rosecroft Raceway judge’s ruling RCR24-020. Based on testimony and evidence presented from these hearings, it is ordered on December 9th, 2024 that the Maryland Racing Commission finds that appellant, John Wagner, is the absolute insurer and is responsible for ADB-Fubinaca being present in the horse at the time of racing. As a result, the commission has ordered that the appellant must pay a $5,000.00 fine, and must return all purse monies. In addition, the appellant will be issued a 360-day full-suspension from December 9th, 2024 through December 3rd, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him or his wife are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Maryland Racing Commission. It is further ordered that the appellant, John Wagner, must reapply and receive approval from the Maryland Racing Commission to obtain any license once his suspension is completed. The commission also orders that horse SWAN HARBOR is disqualified, finishing 1st and placed 9th, and will be placed on the steward’s list from December 9th, 2024 through December 3rd, 2025 as well. All purse monies must be returned within 72 hours of this issuance, and all fines are due within 10 days of the ruling. COMAR: 09.10.03.04.B and COMAR: 09.10.02.25(13)C. Six Multiple Medication Violation (MMV) points assessed.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness racer on May 01, 2025, 10:12:29 AM
Should be a lifetime ban!  He had several and they treated it like one positive.  Complete bullshit.  Especially since he was already given so many before.  Didn’t he get like 10 years from PA for epo, or at I thinking of someone else?
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 01, 2025, 10:29:40 AM
Hes gone until December

POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
  Synthetic cannabis
  (Class 1)
The Maryland Racing Commission conducted several hearings in response to an appeal made by John Wagner in response to Rosecroft Raceway judge’s ruling RCR24-020. Based on testimony and evidence presented from these hearings, it is ordered on December 9th, 2024 that the Maryland Racing Commission finds that appellant, John Wagner, is the absolute insurer and is responsible for ADB-Fubinaca being present in the horse at the time of racing. As a result, the commission has ordered that the appellant must pay a $5,000.00 fine, and must return all purse monies. In addition, the appellant will be issued a 360-day full-suspension from December 9th, 2024 through December 3rd, 2025. During this suspension, he and all horses trained and/or owned by him or his wife are barred from the grounds under the jurisdiction of the Maryland Racing Commission. It is further ordered that the appellant, John Wagner, must reapply and receive approval from the Maryland Racing Commission to obtain any license once his suspension is completed. The commission also orders that horse SWAN HARBOR is disqualified, finishing 1st and placed 9th, and will be placed on the steward’s list from December 9th, 2024 through December 3rd, 2025 as well. All purse monies must be returned within 72 hours of this issuance, and all fines are due within 10 days of the ruling. COMAR: 09.10.03.04.B and COMAR: 09.10.02.25(13)C. Six Multiple Medication Violation (MMV) points assessed.

HOLY CRAP ANOTHER ONE!  I missed this one.  This scumbag should be banned for life and never be eligible for a license again.  He's no "trainer".  He was drugging them all up (which I said to Pete at Rosecroft).  Could tell his horses were all doped up and I kept saying "he's gonna get busted" LMAO.   Was so right!  He belongs in prison!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 01, 2025, 12:43:06 PM
Full Video:
https://youtube.com/shorts/JzTkwzUMNfE?feature=share

That kid needs life ban for using whip..Don't care who started it! Only a pussy would do something like that!

Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: All trot on May 01, 2025, 01:04:04 PM
 Wagner will never stop! He makes these racing commission look like fools and has judges in his pockets!
He now has his sister-in-law as owner of Lucky Lilly Belle LLC
His girlfriend Stacey Mclenaghan aka Corey’s wife as trainer along with Millman Wisher Moyer and Hanners aka his baby girls momma.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 01, 2025, 01:10:33 PM
That kid needs life ban for using whip..Don't care who started it! Only a pussy would do something like that!

Agree 10000%. I said it on FB, where's the USTA Section 1 Article 4 revocation "detrimental to harness racing". Very simple, if that happened off the grounds he leaves in cuffs back seat of a squad car. It wasn't a whip, it was a weapon. Doesn't matter who fired first. It was assault.
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 01, 2025, 01:12:23 PM
Wagner will never stop! He makes these racing commission look like fools and has judges in his pockets!
He now has his sister-in-law as owner of Lucky Lilly Belle LLC
His girlfriend Stacey Mclenaghan aka Corey’s wife as trainer along with Millman Wisher Moyer and Hanners aka his baby girls momma.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

What a frigging clown show!  Yeah seems Wagner has judges and other big shots in his pockets because he keeps getting away with so much shit.   Now that I know all this shit, I will be avoiding Rosecroft and Shenandoah.  Off my list of plays!  I want no part of that corruption!
Title: Re: Shenandoah shenanigans
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 01, 2025, 01:44:32 PM
Agree 10000%. I said it on FB, where's the USTA Section 1 Article 4 revocation "detrimental to harness racing". Very simple, if that happened off the grounds he leaves in cuffs back seat of a squad car. It wasn't a whip, it was a weapon. Doesn't matter who fired first. It was assault.


    Looked like self defense against a bigger guy charging him to me....
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