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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PIGLAND on March 28, 2025, 10:18:30 AM
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sarartogo maybe 500
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hoosier weekends about 1000
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At Cumberland in Maine, if there's 100 fans, it's a "Monster Day". LOL! Harness racing is in pretty rough shape in the Pine Tree State.
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Wolverine Raceway, Hazel Park, Northville Downs, Windsor Raceway, Sports Creek Raceway, Jackson Raceway, Raceway Park, Saginaw Raceway, Muskegon Raceway
ZERO 11.wp 11.wp
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Mohawk, unless it is a big event .....
Including trackside bar and betting booths and inside seating/multiple screen areas and in the stands and down by the track .... 150 to 200. There will be double that in the warmer weather.
I own horses and watch mine from home more often than I go to the track.
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Upstairs in grandstand about 30 on a good night.
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sarartogo maybe 500
Is that since the meet startd ?
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Is that since the meet startd ?
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My simulcast room at home gets 2
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zero , all the fans here in Michigan are DEAD
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who cares how many come especially between october-april, once weather gets nicer and there are big events you can get a small crowd
all the sport should care about is who is wagering and how much
i would rather the gamblers stay home and save gas and food money and bet from home on their computer
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Is that since the meet startd ?
That is some funny stuff, Nike!!! ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1
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hoosier weekends about 1000
500 of them are Amish
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I would think most tracks don't want to publish their attendance, and some embellish numbers by creative counting, LOL. If you're a casual fan, bettor, or just want to go out for an evening, etc., as we know, there are fewer and fewer of these people. If you are a pro and you want/need to be live, you won't find crowds, be bothered, etc. But if you simply want to bet, there is just no reason to go to the track.
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Harrah's Philly/Chester has maybe 50 to 75 on a good day, in the winter its about 10 people, not counting the simulcast guys. Before covid they had "family fun day" on Sundays with prizes, games for kids, a magician, etc, and the place was packed. Now its tumbleweeds, no outrider, no snack bar. Plus starting buzzer has been broken for over six months.
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The place is a dump. Even upstairs in the casino, the place is more than half empty, plus they still allow smoking which makes it unbearable. I don't ever remember the place as being packed. Isn't the snack bar still open during the live racing season, it was when I used to go?
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The place is a dump. Even upstairs in the casino, the place is more than half empty, plus they still allow smoking which makes it unbearable. I don't ever remember the place as being packed. Isn't the snack bar still open during the live racing season, it was when I used to go?
Real nice neighborhood/surroundings as well.
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There's a smaller prison a few blocks away too.
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Harness racing lives in it's own little bubble with very little interest from the outside world anymore. Unless you have a generational horse to appear with a lot of hype there is nothing to draw new people back. People will always come to see something unique and highly exceptional.
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Scioto Downs gets a decent amount of people on Friday and Saturday night since they tore down the old grandstand and built a much smaller one.I bet year round at multiple tracks, and I know I'm in the minority but I like going on a nice summer evening and watching in person rather then at home. Now I have attended LBJ week basically my whole life so about 50 years. I have seen attendance plumit over the last 15 to 20 years. It's still crowded on Jug day, usually 30,000 which is far less then it used to be, but the 4 race days before jug day used to be packed. Now you could sit almost wherever you would want in the grandstand. Even on Juggette day. They race during the day and people have to work. I've suggested to the powers that be.. I know many of them personally.. that maybe one or 2 of those days bring in temporary lighting and start around 5pm. They are looking into it but I'm not holding my breath.
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Just tell them it would be a reason to tell people they are raising prices. tmbz1
That's the ONLY thing that will get their attention. ;D
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Scioto Downs gets a decent amount of people on Friday and Saturday night since they tore down the old grandstand and built a much smaller one.I bet year round at multiple tracks, and I know I'm in the minority but I like going on a nice summer evening and watching in person rather then at home. Now I have attended LBJ week basically my whole life so about 50 years. I have seen attendance plumit over the last 15 to 20 years. It's still crowded on Jug day, usually 30,000 which is far less then it used to be, but the 4 race days before jug day used to be packed. Now you could sit almost wherever you would want in the grandstand. Even on Juggette day. They race during the day and people have to work. I've suggested to the powers that be.. I know many of them personally.. that maybe one or 2 of those days bring in temporary lighting and start around 5pm. They are looking into it but I'm not holding my breath.
The Jug seems to me has become more like a party event than a sporting event like it use to be. Except for what's left of the old timers I bet very few in attendance follow the sport throughout the year.
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Maywood Park zero
Balmoral Park zero
Sportsmans Park zero
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There used to be 6 turf clubs in Southeastern PA that did a good business at one time. All of them are now closed because their business dried up due to online wagering and sportsbooks opening in the area.
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The Jug seems to me has become more like a party event than a sporting event like it use to be. Except for what's left of the old timers I bet very few in attendance follow the sport throughout the year.
It's always been a party event but you are correct. I have an 8 person box in the grandstand that has been in my family for 3 generations. The people in my box follow the sport year round.. mostly family members, but I have many friends that go just on Jug day for the party and it's the one day a year they watch or wager on the ponies.
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Just tell them it would be a reason to tell people they are raising prices. tmbz1
That's the ONLY thing that will get their attention. ;D
They actually raised prices for our 8 person box for the first time in a while 5 bucks per ticket. It's now around just shy of a grand which is for 8 seats for 5 days and a parking pass. They aren't running short on cash since the bed tax in Delaware county passed a few years ago. The first time in my life I ever voted for a tax increase. I'm never sleeping in a hotel in the county I live in LOL
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Those greedy bastards don't have to be 'SHORT ON MONEY' to cry poverty. tmbz1
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Those greedy bastards don't have to be 'SHORT ON MONEY' to cry poverty. tmbz1
Agreed..but that is a common thing with alot of wealthy people or entities as well. Not saying it's right , but it's common
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500 of them are Amish
I think Mennonites. (or very liberal Amish)
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At Cumberland in Maine, if there's 100 fans, it's a "Monster Day". LOL! Harness racing is in pretty rough shape in the Pine Tree State.
opening day last year I counted 30 people and half were horsemen
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ngc3 tmbz1
Is that since the meet startd ?
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gulfstreem was packed yesterday
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gulfstreem was packed yesterday
So was Oaklawn, big stakes races.
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tmbz1
So was Oaklawn, big stakes races.
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Last time I went to Yonkers (5 years ago) I counted 9 people
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Ironic how the big t-bred days get both big handle (all-in) AND on-track attendance. The s-breds get the former and not the latter. Somehow, people work during the day, but they still get what, 15k to 20k people, who go to the track during the Spa meet. It's what, about a 40 day meet, and they get 1m people and handle about what, 3/4 of a billion dollars?
I guess some parts of the sport and industry aren't dead. LOL.
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Only the Spa and Keeneland have any real attendance anymore.
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At Pocono on the biggest day of the year, there were about 25 people not counting the owners in the clubhouse. An embarrassment for the sport.
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I would call it a good representation of harness racing more than an embarrassment.
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I would call it a good representation of harness racing more than an embarrassment.
Very true, can not draw a phone booth crowd sometimes for Steaks races you can use 2 phone booths
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I would call it a good representation of harness racing more than an embarrassment.
25 people on the biggest day of the year in the prime days of summer. They had two food truck but one left because there wasn't any business.
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Anyone know what the supposed/alleged attendance was for the Hambo last year? Thanks.
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At Cumberland in Maine, if there's 100 fans, it's a "Monster Day". LOL! Harness racing is in pretty rough shape in the Pine Tree State.
Last time I attended live there was about 6-7 years 15 max, crazy!
Mohawk average 100 people as well
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There are days at Saratoga where if you fired a shot gun off...you wouldn't hit a soul
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Anyone know what the supposed/alleged attendance was for the Hambo last year? Thanks.
Meadowlands has a calendar giveaway every year, and they say it's for the first 2500 people. That way they can give out free calendars each racing night until Hambo day.
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Meadowlands has a calendar giveaway every year, and they say it's for the first 2500 people. That way they can give out free calendars each racing night until Hambo day.
Lmfao ngc3
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Meadowlands has a calendar giveaway every year, and they say it's for the first 2500 people. That way they can give out free calendars each racing night until Hambo day.
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Good one. Start on opening night, run out of calendars by the Hambo ngc3
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Vernon Downs gets a decent crowd in the dining clubhouse and the betting area. Reason: Not much got going on around there plus it has a great view of the area.
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If there was a track near me in Michigan, I would go now and again. Back in the day Hazel Park would get thousands on a weekday...
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northfield park use to be packed
you had to pay a dollar to park
1.50 to get in the doors
2.00 for a program
now there are 12 cars in the lot one of which works at the program stand.
free entry and parking
the casino is always full. im not sure why they dont show the races and offer horse betting where the slots are. they are 2 seperate facilities which you can spit on one if you are at the other.
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When OTB was introduced in NY Bill Haughton was the only horseman to go to Albany and speak out against it. He told them if fans could bet off track that there would be a day when there would be no fans at the track.
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tracks nowadays don't keep track of live attendance-that would require charging admission and paying somebody to let them in
another reason is many are adjacent to a casino . so the foot traffic via the track is accidental
Gural charges admission for Hambletonian Day-so that is a rare example
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Anyone know what the supposed/alleged attendance was for the Hambo last year? Thanks.
Platkin and the New Jersey Racing Commission today announced results from the 99th Hambletonian Day held August 3, 2024 at the Meadowlands. The total handle was $7,427,370, with 16,465 visitors in attendance-although that doesn't account for the "spinners" who were collecting numerous calendars
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about 75 people tops at Cal Expo
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I was at Chantilly today ... I'd say 1,500. Longchamps Saturday... Vincennes Monday.
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I was at Chantilly today ... I'd say 1,500. Longchamps Saturday... Vincennes Monday.
Very nice! Enjoy!
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Yonkers has 60-70 people betting horses. 50 of those are the men wearing jiffy pop hats betting night flat tracks. There’s probably 10 or so people actually watching Yonkers.
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Obviously, we mostly just bet at home, more convenient and the beer is cheaper... tmbz1
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Obviously, we mostly just bet at home, more convenient and the beer is cheaper... tmbz1
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sarartogo maybe 500
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Yeah 498 are playing the slots.
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northfield park use to be packed
you had to pay a dollar to park
1.50 to get in the doors
2.00 for a program
now there are 12 cars in the lot one of which works at the program stand.
free entry and parking
the casino is always full. im not sure why they dont show the races and offer horse betting where the slots are. they are 2 seperate facilities which you can spit on one if you 0's are at the other.
I remember back in the 70's and 80's the parking lot included where the casino is now. Sometimes on Saturday nights and especially during big races all parking was full. You had try and park at the McDonalds and donut shop across the street to find a spot. Until they got wise and started towing your car.
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I was at Longchamps yesterday. Probably 5,000..
Beautiful spot though Chantilly is imo much nicer
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Running Aces 500-800 nightly on the apron.
Cal Expo 2 bums sleeping on the apron
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Cumberland has around 25- 30 on a good day. The Fairs are well attended. Fryeburg- always packed