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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on December 19, 2018, 08:56:20 PM
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my east coast pal has been telling me for 2 yrs now,,
that he dont mind payin 6700 a horse a month,,
HEZ GOT STABLE OF 7 HORSES,,,
NONE ARE DOING WELL BUT BILL KEEPS STEADY AT 6700 TO 7250 A MONTH
i called him an idiot,,,,
WHAT SHOULD MY EAST COAST PAL DO .HEZ NOT A PLOPPER
BUT WANTED TO READ IMPUT HERE ,,SO HE CAN DECIDE
WHATS AN ACCEPTABLE MONTHLY TRAINING BILL,,
JUST MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE,,
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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST..
I THINK FRENCH CANADIANS MAKE BEST TRAINERS
BUT THATS JUST ME tmbz1
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60.00 aday plus stall rent - shipping- vet -blacksmith 5800-6500
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Training bills are like buying a car how much are you willing to pay
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most trainers charge just enough so you dont make any money,if your horse won the open at yonkers every week your training bill and extras will cost you the whole purse money every month so you break almost even,
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most trainers charge just enough so you dont make any money,if your horse won the open at yonkers every week your training bill and extras will cost you the whole purse money every month so you break almost even,
We call that Revenue-Plus Accounting.
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most trainers charge just enough so you dont make any money,if your horse won the open at yonkers every week your training bill and extras will cost you the whole purse money every month so you break almost even,
I THINK MOST TRAINERS ARE HONEST
SOME ARE GROOMS WHO PRETEND TO BE TRAINERS ,,
AND SUCKERS PAY AND PAY AND PAY
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midwest, around 1800-2300 all in if the horse raced 4 times in the month and didnt have any major vet issues needed. 6700 seems astronomical. have to make 80,000 to break even lol. outrageous.
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my east coast pal has been telling me for 2 yrs now,,
that he dont mind payin 6700 a horse a month,,
HEZ GOT STABLE OF 7 HORSES,,,
NONE ARE DOING WELL BUT BILL KEEPS STEADY AT 6700 TO 7250 A MONTH
i called him an idiot,,,,
WHAT SHOULD MY EAST COAST PAL DO .HEZ NOT A PLOPPER
BUT WANTED TO READ IMPUT HERE ,,SO HE CAN DECIDE
WHATS AN ACCEPTABLE MONTHLY TRAINING BILL,,
JUST MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE,,
..
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST..
I THINK FRENCH CANADIANS MAKE BEST TRAINERS
BUT THATS JUST ME tmbz1
Apparently your friend enjoys getting fucked up the ass...4k max...that's what Allard charges, juice and all.
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midwest, around 1800-2300 all in if the horse raced 4 times in the month and didnt have any major vet issues needed. 6700 seems astronomical. have to make 80,000 to break even lol. outrageous.
appreciate you keeping it real, coryd. I was palpitating reading those crazy monthly charges > who could ever hit the break point ?
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$1800 a month plus the 5% plus the vet plus the shoer plus Bonus if you win. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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50/50 split
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midwest, around 1800-2300 all in if the horse raced 4 times in the month and didnt have any major vet issues needed. 6700 seems astronomical. have to make 80,000 to break even lol. outrageous.
appartently these east coast guys dont mind gettin high bills from grooms,,
7000 a month is way to high
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6 grand or 7 grand to race at Buffalo or FREEHOLD or big m
That's insane ..
But apparently grooms have some east coast guys convinced they are TRAINERS ngc3
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6 grand or 7 grand to race at Buffalo or FREEHOLD or big m
That's insane ..
But apparently grooms have some east coast guys convinced they are TRAINERS ngc3
The leading trainers charge about double what most "regular" trainers charge.
Fact--Allard Bills can be +8000$ a month if horse made money--you get killed when they dont-and many dont
End result?-The 6Million Allard makes--he makes a lot of it-and why he buys so many babies etc
Good luck to him.Legal fees etc are high.
C.Coleman averages 4-6000/month -same story.
Only one who is better is Ron Burke--doesnt kill you.
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but these go out east or canada and call themselves trainers
,,i need to know where they were trained at and by whom ngc3 ngc3 ngc3...
..who trained them ?
8000 a month thats steep,,
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Y'all sound like pigeons at an auction
$4000
$4300
$5000
$6000
$8000 now
Do I hear $9000 ?
All-Day Suckers.
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Apparently your friend enjoys getting fucked up the ass...4k max...that's what Allard charges, juice and all.
u way to LOW
JUNIOR
I NO 4 FAX
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$40/Day $100 for shoeing, no vet work, just turnout at my farm
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average $1100 a month, $50 paddocks, blacksmith $150, vet varies alot $200, alot more when there are issues, tack supplies $50, so $1500 to 1600 a month. Top trainers are almost double that. Dont need a "top" name trainer, but dont want an idiot either. Anyone who is paying more than 3K a month better demand results weekly, of course that probably means lots of "special vitamins"
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6700 a month is insanity a person better have a saturday night yonkers horse and a good one at that anyone that pays more than 5000 a month is getting ripped off
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Daily rate is not an issue, even at $100 @ day totals $3000. it's all the add-ons that kill you.
When the tracks shut down the backstretch is when things started getting out of hand.
You easily pay an additional $15,000. a year now in shipping and stall rent.
You will find that your trainer and vet will spend all your earnings in very little time.
JUST BEND OVER AND TAKE IT. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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I have no idea who would pay these big numbers. I have a training bill from 2 years ago and the day rate was $40, maybe if it's gone up $5. I was stabled at Tioga for free. If you want to make money, there are some decent trainers there.
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There is no correct answer. It depends on the purses you race for, transportation etc. I know at Pompano, the average daily rate is around $50/day, plus stall rent, plus blacksmith, plus paddock fee, plus Vet bill. Probably $2400/month. Im Sure the bills are higher if you race in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
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Listen buddy if u want my honest opinion from a guy that’s not trying to be a smartass comedian that trains horses this is what i think is very important is what kinda horse is it and where are u racing meaning what’s the purse structure u can’t charge a owner $60 a day for a 4 claimer but most trainers are getting anywhere from $50 a day up to $60 a day than u will have stall rent /blacksmith/vet/shipping/ so it adds up that’s y a good trainer that wants to keep u in the barn will tell u when a horse isn’t good enuf to pay his bill get rid of his ass
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$2,000 -$2,500 a month. very fair
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$45/day plus stall, shoeing, tack, vet
Around 2,500/month
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my good friend loves all the imput
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HEZ EXPLORING OTHERS AVENUES
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFULL
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YOU HAVE A FRIEND????
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YOU HAVE A FRIEND????
YEAH GUIDING OUR GOOD FRIEND AGAIN
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u way to LOW
JUNIOR
I NO 4 FAX
I own horses with vip with allard $100 a day, ive got the invoices to prove it dickhead.
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I own horses with vip with allard $100 a day, ive got the invoices to prove it dickhead.
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I see him at every sale
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LUC
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I own horses with vip with allard $100 a day, ive got the invoices to prove it dickhead.
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Made over 40k myself with keystone velocity and i owned a very minor share. Who are some of your big horses you midwestern piece of shit who has nothing better to do than make 50k posts on this site ngc3
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yes I believe you pigeon ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
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yes I believe you pigeon ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3
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Where's your new boyfriend Tim?
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$60. A DAY = $1,800.
$100. shipping and paddock times 4 = $400. racing every week.
$100. shoes 2x per month. = $200.
$ ? vet
$100. groom per week 4x = $400.
$3,000 - $4,000 per month (vet can vary)
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I will train your horses for $500.00 per month ,below is the services you recieve
#1.horses will stay in the barn on rain and snow days.
#2 horses will stay in the stall if it not above 65 degrees.
#3 horses don't get fed before I get home from the Casino.
#4 horses use the same equipment. ( all I can afford)
#5 Truck horses at 32 miles per hour when I have time.
#6 feed horses with grass clippings from my lawn.
#7Owner must agree to let me haul horses with there truck.
#8 shoeing is done by me no trimming, Note !! I use Duct tape staples to apply shoes.
#9 I use Dr. Crank-em for the vet . Owner must pay him with Weed and Crank
#10 Owner must meet me at the rest area with the juice just before the track gate.
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Years ago the saying was...
Fancy barn, $100/day plus manure rights.
Not so fancy barn, $75/day plus manure rights.
Average barn, $50/day plus manure rights.
So so barn, $30/day plus manure rights .
Bad looking barn, $20/day and there ain’t no manure.
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Do the numbers. All you guys trash trainers of all types. SOME work hard and deserve to get paid. Everyone knows it's a high risk investment business. Feed is 22 a bag and all horses eat the same amount. About 300lbs a month. 150
Groom 400 month
Hay 40/60 month
Shavings or straw 50/80 month so the trainer at 50 a day makes about 500 month profit off training and supplies all the EQ and 60/80000 for a rig. Bonus is 5% and makes a little on shipping but again trainer has a ton tied up in eq and truck and trailer. If owners dont feel the trainer should get paid for his time, do it themselves. Some owners think they know everything anyway