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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2023, 01:22:22 PM »
It was also believed that he killed his wife or something to that effect.

He did and he's getting out of the can soon and meaner than ever after doing hard time.. Be careful what you write about him on Plop

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2023, 11:56:42 PM »

If you went to Roosevelt, you have surely been to Gam Wah.

Old Guy got the Jimmy Cruise horse correct, It was Frank T Ace
unsure about FrankTAce   But the Cruise family had a classy old claimer called BudTAce who survived a terrible fire and raced successfully after it missing most of his hair  he won dozens of races for them

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #107 on: June 18, 2023, 12:10:18 AM »

While speaking of Monti, who knew Ricky Kurtz, John Conti, or Jerry Silverman?
I groomed for Jerry Silverman at the Meadowlands   took care of a classy young filly named Don"t Dally    She held a world record for a week 3f p until it was croken by a filly of Bill Herman's   Jerry ran a good outfit and his son Ricvhie qwas a nice kid    still is

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #108 on: June 18, 2023, 12:12:11 AM »
John Conte entered the business by virtue of hitting a twin double for 100k..One of the first  the story was on the Back page of the Daily News

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #109 on: June 18, 2023, 12:34:53 AM »
John Conte entered the business by virtue of hitting a twin double for 100k..One of the first  the story was on the Back page of the Daily News

John, who hung out with Kurtz, who trained a horse for me by the name of Doctor Cheye, came to my home in Old Brookville on a regular basis.  I think you are mistaking him for Ernie Dahlman who hit the 110,000 twin at Yonkers. He then started the Hickory Way Stable with trainer George Regan who in turn was the trainer who claimed Frank T Ace from Jimmy Cruise. There was a Bud T Ace who was C-2, C-3 pacer at best.  This is the reason I asked the questions I did. They were all related in some way.

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #110 on: June 18, 2023, 03:12:53 PM »
He did and he's getting out of the can soon and meaner than ever after doing hard time.. Be careful what you write about him on Plop

I didn't say he killed his wife, you did!

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #111 on: June 18, 2023, 03:18:53 PM »
John, who hung out with Kurtz, who trained a horse for me by the name of Doctor Cheye, came to my home in Old Brookville on a regular basis.  I think you are mistaking him for Ernie Dahlman who hit the 110,000 twin at Yonkers. He then started the Hickory Way Stable with trainer George Regan who in turn was the trainer who claimed Frank T Ace from Jimmy Cruise. There was a Bud T Ace who was C-2, C-3 pacer at best.  This is the reason I asked the questions I did. They were all related in some way.
Ok, so back in the 80s I had a friend named Steve Kozak who groomed for John Conte. Pretty decent forse at the time by general star was his best horse at the time. Anyway it was Steve who told me himself the story about John and in their tackroom was a copy of the daily news backpage. I wish I had it now   Thats all I klnow.  Wow, Ernie Dahlman a name from the archives  havent thought of him in years  cool

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #112 on: June 18, 2023, 03:31:45 PM »
Ok, so back in the 80s I had a friend named Steve Kozak who groomed for John Conte. Pretty decent forse at the time by general star was his best horse at the time. Anyway it was Steve who told me himself the story about John and in their tackroom was a copy of the daily news backpage. I wish I had it now   Thats all I klnow.  Wow, Ernie Dahlman a name from the archives  havent thought of him in years  cool

Ernie was the guy.  By the way, Conte also hung with Ron Gurfein.

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #113 on: June 18, 2023, 05:05:35 PM »
Ernie was the guy.  By the way, Conte also hung with Ron Gurfein.
[weird, cause the daily news pic identifies John Conte. I wanna say it paid like 110,000 which as you know then was like a million

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #114 on: June 18, 2023, 08:56:29 PM »
Hey Fuguzzi read the article on page seven about Buddy suing YR and RR. There was one other driver not mentioned in the suit that actually was the king pin of all the drivers.

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #115 on: June 19, 2023, 12:00:31 AM »
Roosevelt Raceway in 1937 dealt with a different type of horsepower originally:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv882qm9y1U
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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #116 on: June 19, 2023, 12:13:53 AM »
In 1973 28 people were indicted for race fixing:   https://www.nytimes.com/1973/12/21/archives/28-are-indicted-by-federal-jury-in-racing-fixes-13-drivers-are.html

Peter Vario, age 37, 968 Hemlock Avenue, Brooklyn, owner of Pete's Used Tires, 8324 Foster Avenue, Brooklyn.

Forrest Gerry Jr., 46, Uniondale, L. I., horse broker.

Del Insko, 42, Williston Park, L. I., president of the National Association of Harness Drivers, harness driver.

Carmine Abbatiello, 37, New Hyde Park, L. I., harness driver.

William Gilmour, 41, Westbury, L. I., New York, harness driver.

Frank Popfinger, 42, 9 Sunset Lane, Garden City, L. I., harness driver.

Ben Webster, 34, Old Bethpage, L. I., harness driver.

Kenneth McNutt, 40, Yonkers, harness driver.

William Hudson, 58, Copiague, L. I., harness driver.

Maurice Pusey, 46, Plainview, L. I., harness driver.

George Foldi, 33, 152 East 35th St., New York, harness driver.

William Myer, 57, Westbury, L. I., harness driver. Elden Turcotte, 31, White Plains, harness driver. Real Cormier, 38, Port Jervis, N. Y., harness driver. Dale Ross, 33, Vienna, Ohio, harness driver.

Anthony Annicharico, 53, 306 Carroll Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Angelo,Calanna, 46, 7001 Avenue U, Brooklyn, restaurant owner.

Howard Druss, 46, Bardonia, N. Y.

Jerry Guisto, 29, 413 Clinton Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Richard Perry, 31, 68 East 19th Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Michael Sherman, 32, 998 East 56th Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Michael famburo, 30, 149‐37 84th Street, Brooklyn, cab driver.

Joseph Pullman, 36, Hoboken, truck driver.

Constance Rogers, 39, 97‐11 Horace Harding Expressway, Queens, waitress.

Louis Valdes, 31, 355 Avenue U, Brooklyn, hairdresser.

Seymour Rothstein, 54, 102‐17 64th Road, Queens, cab driver.

Gaythorne Angell, Jr., 38, Providence, R. I., unemployed.

Bruno Facciolo, 45, 7001 Avenue U, Brooklyn, unemployed.

In addition, another harness driver was indicted on charges of obstruction of justice and with making false declarations to a grand jury. Joseph Bonacorsa, 52, of New Hyde Park, L. I.-------Three of the nation's four top money‐winning harness drivers were among 28 persons indicted by Federal authorities on charges of fixing superfecta races at Roosevelt and Yonkers Raceways. The indictments, resulting from a year‐long grand jury investigation, accused 13 drivers of conspiring with a betting ring that allegedly made $3‐million on about 30 rigged superfectas between last Jan. 1 and April 13. Most of the other defendants are “10 per centars,” so called because they receive a fee for cashing big‐payoff tickets.
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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #117 on: June 19, 2023, 10:28:23 AM »
In 1973 28 people were indicted for race fixing:   https://www.nytimes.com/1973/12/21/archives/28-are-indicted-by-federal-jury-in-racing-fixes-13-drivers-are.html

Peter Vario, age 37, 968 Hemlock Avenue, Brooklyn, owner of Pete's Used Tires, 8324 Foster Avenue, Brooklyn.

Forrest Gerry Jr., 46, Uniondale, L. I., horse broker.

Del Insko, 42, Williston Park, L. I., president of the National Association of Harness Drivers, harness driver.

Carmine Abbatiello, 37, New Hyde Park, L. I., harness driver.

William Gilmour, 41, Westbury, L. I., New York, harness driver.

Frank Popfinger, 42, 9 Sunset Lane, Garden City, L. I., harness driver.

Ben Webster, 34, Old Bethpage, L. I., harness driver.

Kenneth McNutt, 40, Yonkers, harness driver.

William Hudson, 58, Copiague, L. I., harness driver.

Maurice Pusey, 46, Plainview, L. I., harness driver.

George Foldi, 33, 152 East 35th St., New York, harness driver.

William Myer, 57, Westbury, L. I., harness driver. Elden Turcotte, 31, White Plains, harness driver. Real Cormier, 38, Port Jervis, N. Y., harness driver. Dale Ross, 33, Vienna, Ohio, harness driver.

Anthony Annicharico, 53, 306 Carroll Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Angelo,Calanna, 46, 7001 Avenue U, Brooklyn, restaurant owner.

Howard Druss, 46, Bardonia, N. Y.

Jerry Guisto, 29, 413 Clinton Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Richard Perry, 31, 68 East 19th Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Michael Sherman, 32, 998 East 56th Street, Brooklyn, unemployed.

Michael famburo, 30, 149‐37 84th Street, Brooklyn, cab driver.

Joseph Pullman, 36, Hoboken, truck driver.

Constance Rogers, 39, 97‐11 Horace Harding Expressway, Queens, waitress.

Louis Valdes, 31, 355 Avenue U, Brooklyn, hairdresser.

Seymour Rothstein, 54, 102‐17 64th Road, Queens, cab driver.

Gaythorne Angell, Jr., 38, Providence, R. I., unemployed.

Bruno Facciolo, 45, 7001 Avenue U, Brooklyn, unemployed.

In addition, another harness driver was indicted on charges of obstruction of justice and with making false declarations to a grand jury. Joseph Bonacorsa, 52, of New Hyde Park, L. I.-------Three of the nation's four top money‐winning harness drivers were among 28 persons indicted by Federal authorities on charges of fixing superfecta races at Roosevelt and Yonkers Raceways. The indictments, resulting from a year‐long grand jury investigation, accused 13 drivers of conspiring with a betting ring that allegedly made $3‐million on about 30 rigged superfectas between last Jan. 1 and April 13. Most of the other defendants are “10 per centars,” so called because they receive a fee for cashing big‐payoff tickets.
great research and all true  pretty sure Peter Vario was that son of Luchese boss, Paul Vario, as in Goodfellas

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #118 on: June 19, 2023, 10:30:59 AM »
Wasnt the Chinese man who bet for Buddy and owned Gaqm Wah, the "stranger" in Buddy gilmour's 3 friends and a stranger stable? I know the 7 inner circle drivers were looking for 30k per nigh or roughly a million a month    definitely would meet at gam wah or the island inn to divvy up the loot

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Re: 1974 Yonkers and 1983 Roosevelt and Meadowlands
« Reply #119 on: June 19, 2023, 10:33:38 AM »
Hey Fuguzzi read the article on page seven about Buddy suing YR and RR. There was one other driver not mentioned in the suit that actually was the king pin of all the drivers.
totally believe you  I dont know who the "boss" was before Rejean I am 60, you are older  i started on the track around 78 as Rejean was gaining power. Rejean had good outfit and used the great blacksmith John Santoro   same farrier the Cruises, Lacava, McCardle , Larry summer and others used

 

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