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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness Horseman on April 04, 2020, 11:27:37 AM
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Just a horseman and his horses, the drivers and racing officials. No one else. I don't care if they allow betting or not. That way there would be no post drag. Get the whole card over in less than 2 hours. 3 races in the paddock at one time if possible. Trailers outside till it is your turn
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Don´t think any state will allow it, they are putting their employees at risk. I can´t believe they will make harness racing a essential service. All racing states are in a no unnecessary travel ban. Do you really think they will give an exemption for harness racing? Pa wants to take the money away, this gives them the opening. Don´t think you will see racing till end of June at the earliest.
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No place wants to not race more than Yonkers.
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Yonkers was the Epicenter of this mess here . Who was the first death in New Jersey and in Bergen county ? Yonkers might open next year .
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No place wants to not race more than Yonkers.
Then PA is second
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so lets put aside racing for the moment
any business that can operate safely needs to reopen asap to restart the economy
nobody is staying in full lockdown mode until june or longer
a new normal needs to be established
lets face it people go to the grocery store , yes it is essential but it does not mean it cant be transferd there
horse racing is one business that can operate with minimal interaction and thus a safe environment
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Ya the country needs to open racing asap, no patrons, run them like qualifiers, no one in paddock race from trailers. Sounds like a disaster in the making. States will NOT put their employees in harms way. Do you really think america really cares about harness racing.
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WE need to race to pay our bills. Seems to be going fine at Gulfstream and Tampa. Lets hope the folks at Pompano are the first to go back up. There are normally 15 people in the stands so we can extend our social distancing to 50 feet. The paddock will be empty. This will give us the chance to get ready to ship when New York, Pa, and Mass. settle down by June 1.
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horse racing is one business that can operate with minimal interaction and thus a safe environment
this is some stupid shit.
If the slot machines ain't hummin,
You welfare sluts ain't runnin.
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racing today in USA
Gulfstream
Tampa Bay
Oaklawn
Remington
Los Alamintos
Naples - Greyhound
maybe more --- it's what my ADW is covering
Surprised Florida is still racing after they tightened up things this week.
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this is some stupid shit.
If the slot machines ain't hummin,
You welfare sluts ain't runnin.
you phony genius <> the money for the purses is already in a treasure chest buried out in some pasture. They say the word the ass-ociations run and dig it up. You, cocoon, are plumb uniformed.
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you phony genius <> the money for the purses is already in a treasure chest buried out in some pasture. They say the word the ass-ociations run and dig it up. You, cocoon, are plumb uniformed.
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the question was should harness racing be allowed
not how would it be funded and by whom
there is ways to get the funding for purses( most of us don't have access to this information)
with all the money governments are throwing around you think they wont access it if they think harness should be a go
and save me the bs about who cares about harness racing, it is about getting people working asap so they can start to support the economy no matter what the job
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you phony genius <> the money for the purses is already in a treasure chest buried out in some pasture. They say the word the ass-ociations run and dig it up. You, cocoon, are plumb uniformed.
You ignorant Feeb. << >>
Read the contract.
Then read your application for food stamps.
MAGA
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You ignorant Feeb. << >>
Read the contract.
Then read your application for food stamps.
MAGA
YOU GOT US ON THIS ONE ngc3
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WE need to race to pay our bills. Seems to be going fine at Gulfstream and Tampa. Lets hope the folks at Pompano are the first to go back up. There are normally 15 people in the stands so we can extend our social distancing to 50 feet. The paddock will be empty. This will give us the chance to get ready to ship when New York, Pa, and Mass. settle down by June 1.
Pompano area is the NYC of the South. Coronavirus rampant. Pompano has a big chance of never opening again.
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GIVE ANY THOUGHTS ON WHEN RACIN WILL RESUME
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Pompano next 10 days 5 horse fields
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Yea, they are going to be in a hurry to open up a business with an FBI investigation going on that can`t support itself! You special motherfucker! Wake up!
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Ya the country needs to open racing asap, no patrons,
So, business as usual for most tracks?
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I think the whole country will open back up at the end of April beginning of May. Racing included. Trump can’t stand seeing all his hard work fixing this country and it’s economy going to shit bc of the Chinese virus. So first week of May I’m thinking we’re racing tmbz1
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tracks with barns and dorms if there are enough horses to race and no ones got a positive virus test why not?
the flats are running in a few places. same people around same horses got to be there to take care of them anyways. right now nothing is consistaint. cal ex closed. sant anita, then golden gate but los amitos quarter horses going. 1 state. 1 track open and other 3 closed 1 by 1 not at same time. crazy.
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gulf stream has been racing through it all
and one of the top jockeys had covid 19 last week and they are still racing
to be clear there is no doubt areas around new york and new jersey will be delayed based on the rampant spread
but some areas are not so bad
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Fonner park, Will Rodgers downs, Tampa Bay Downs, and Gulfstream all racing
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Fonner park, Will Rodgers downs, Tampa Bay Downs, and Gulfstream all racing
NONE GOT ANY BUSINESS BEING OPEN tmbz1
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Fonner park, Will Rodgers downs, Tampa Bay Downs, and Gulfstream all racing
CUS THEY TOLD CNN AND MSNBC GO FUCK YOURSELF
AND YOUR FAKE ASS PANDEMIC
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CUS THEY TOLD CNN AND MSNBC GO FUCK YOURSELF
AND YOUR FAKE ASS PANDEMIC
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CUS THEY TOLD CNN AND MSNBC GO FUCK YOURSELF
AND YOUR FAKE ASS PANDEMIC
If it's Sunday, it's a Liberal Hoax.
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NONE GOT ANY BUSINESS BEING OPEN tmbz1
EZ, Big boy - if the state sanctioning agency works w/ harness ass-o-ciations. there is no reason that they can't get flexible, reduce the number of races, separate the paddock people and giddy-up. the simulcast would be outta sight. AND, the horsemen-women should be temperate checked when they arrive. The problem is, for every industry in the country, that people want to do it like they've always done it.
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EZ, Big boy - if the state sanctioning agency works w/ harness ass-o-ciations. there is no reason that they can't get flexible, reduce the number of races, separate the paddock people and giddy-up. the simulcast would be outta sight. AND, the horsemen-women should be temperate checked when they arrive. The problem is, for every industry in the country, that people want to do it like they've always done it.
Someone must think otherwise. Of course it "can" be done. Should it?
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yes it should asap when safety allows in each specific area
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yes it should asap when safety allows in each specific area
xactly - nobody wants nobody gettin the virus. That's certain. The hang-up is not exclusively the race comm. or ass-o-ciations, it rests somewhat w/ horse people that aren't flexible and demand racing is same old / same old/ and, for that reason - racing will not resume until there's an all clear.
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GEEZ, USE HARNY FOLKS BE DUMB AS BOXES OF ROCKS. ALL THE TRACKS THAT RACE THE NOBLE THOROUGHBRED STABLE THE HORSES ON THE GROUNDS, NO TRAVEL NEEDED. YOU BUGGY BOYS HAVE TO TRAILOR YOUR TRASH ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SPREADING GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT
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People need diversions ... all you hear all day long is doom and gloom n the news casts . We ALL know what comes out of politicians, reporters and so called experts mouths is bullshit and much of this is trying to create a hysteria .
THIS IS A FORM OF FLU NOT THE BLACK PLAGUE!!! PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL ISSUES NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND VIGILANTE!!!
TRUE, this form of the virus has been stronger than recent outbreaks BUT you cannot live your life in a bubble..
THE BASIC FACT IS THAT IF YOU COME DOWN WITH THE VIRUS DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL DIE
I say if the people running the racing operations are healthy ( and they can be monitored); I say the quicker we try and move on the better
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People need diversions ... all you hear all day long is doom and gloom n the news casts . We ALL know what comes out of politicians, reporters and so called experts mouths is bullshit and much of this is trying to create a hysteria .
THIS IS A FORM OF FLU NOT THE BLACK PLAGUE!!! PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL ISSUES NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND VIGILANTE!!!
TRUE, this form of the virus has been stronger than recent outbreaks BUT you cannot live your life in a bubble..
THE BASIC FACT IS THAT IF YOU COME DOWN WITH THE VIRUS DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL DIE
I say if the people running the racing operations are healthy ( and they can be monitored); I say the quicker we try and move on the better
http://ustrottingnews.com/breeders-cup-ceo-tells-trump-horseracing-is-different-than-other-sports/
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http://ustrottingnews.com/breeders-cup-ceo-tells-trump-horseracing-is-different-than-other-sports/
BC CEO TELLS TRUMP HE WANTS TO KEEP HIS PAYCHECK tmbz1
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The racing commission in Pa is closed, they will not come back till Wolf gives the all clear, maybe after he takes the cash to help pay the states bills. He might leave a little bit and give that to the breeders, they actually have lobbyists. Not going to start up anytime soon!
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Hopefully June 1
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Jan,2021
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Until a vaccine is created and is known to work putting a date out there for racing to resume is just a pipe dream.
Whole seasons in jeopardy is reasonable.
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Hopefully June 1
allard and company have ruined pocono
track is unbetable and mostly unwatchable
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allard and company have ruined pocono
track is unbetable and mostly unwatchable
ALLARD AND COMPANY FIGHTING TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL ON TV SOON
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Pokahoe was a safe have for criminals long before Asslard and company arrived.
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Of course it should be allowed, based on the area of the country. Life has to go at some point. The flu killed 40,000 people so far this year, way more than Covid19
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Just let one employee or commission worker get the virus and the publicity will put the final nail in the coffin.
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i see they are having qualifiers at spring garden ranch and southern oaks.
why cant we have races?
they are doing it in sweden, australia, with thoroughbreds...
if only we had some people that could push to make it happen
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How do you suggest a purse fund be set up?
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i see they are having qualifiers at spring garden ranch and southern oaks.
why cant we have races?
they are doing it in sweden, australia, with thoroughbreds...
if only we had some people that could push to make it happen
Probably running it like a fair.... get them ready at barn, have some place to have identification checked and hit the track.
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How do you suggest a purse fund be set up?
with the purses that are already designated for horse racing
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Probably running it like a fair.... get them ready at barn, have some place to have identification checked and hit the track.
I can answer that since term was my trainer
Nobody at these qualifiers but grooms and drivers.abd trainers who stable at these farms
Maybe one or two owners Most of the time no
That’s eggzactly what tracks should do
No body but. Grooms and drivers and trainers
This is bullshit what’s going on country
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Darker skins are going down like bowling pins in your town,,,,are you getting worried
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Darker skins are going down like bowling pins in your town,,,,are you getting worried
no im half black tmbz1
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Darker skins are going down like bowling pins in your town,,,,are you getting worried
FUCKIN BOWLING PINS!!!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I see Fonner Park is in NE. Not much a tbred fan so by glancing at purses this must be lower class horses?
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Naw. Horse people are dirty. They spread disease faster then rats.
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NO SCHOOL IN PA REST OF THE YEAR, Do you really think they will be in a hurry to open tracks, California says no football til thanksgiving. NJ closed down till May 15 that sort of kills BigM May 1 opening, I guess they will give a special dispensation for harness racing, racing without fans, we have been doing that for years. June or july at the earliest.
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Pa no school rest of year...including sept thru december ????
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Gentlemen and ladies this is just one of the stories ive experience in horseracing.True story.A friend from the track claims a horse a few years back off Duane Marfisi Rick Zeron driving.Horse comes back after it had raced.Horse breaks down.Horse standing there with his head down dejected while they take the bike off.And these two no good cock suckers have the nerve to be h5en and laughing about it.I asked my friend what did you do or say to them.Nothing.If that was me i would have gone berserk and did something very very bad to both.True story.Very sad.
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WE need to race to pay our bills.
Millions need to work to pay their bills
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We need to race to pay our bills, Thats pretty funny! I think most of the people feel the same way, you think harness racing is special. Just sit back and relax or get a part time job, racing will start when it starts horsemen have NO control over the situation. Stop complaining, everybody is in the same boat.
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harness racing is no more special than any industry
any business that can start back up while being safe must do so asap
and horse racing is one that can much more easily and safely than other sporting events or casinos or concerts etc
get a part time job, sure where ?the country is mostly unemployed and most businesses are shut down ,
you think the government can support everyone for another 12 months
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HARNESS RACING SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TILL CHURCHES ARE ALLOWED TO RE OPEN WITH GATHERING OF MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE
OR UNTIL FAUCI SAYS SO
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when do the casinos open? Insiders say they can place the slots betters 6 feet apart by having one machine working, the next 3 off, then the next one on. The problem there is they may have to disinfect each machine after each player is finished. Really looks like they will open only when we get an all clear,
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with all respect to all religion what possible relevance do churches have to horse racing
and how relevant to the economy are churches,
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Does anyone think that 99% of the country gives a dam about harness racing, many businesses will be opened before tracks or casinos. If you took a poll in america where the hell do you think harness racing would land in relationship to most other businesses.Maybe bottom 5%.
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THE DAY AFTER EACH OF THE 29 DEFENDANTS HAVE HAD THEIR DAYS IN COURT AND THEIR SENTENCE IS RENDERED
THANKS RAY SHITLICKER FOR THE IDEA... IF THE 2ND TRAINER KNEW, WELL THEN ALL OF YOU FUCKERS CLAIM TO KNOW THEY WERE CHEATIN, AND YOU ALL DIDNT DO NUTTIN. SO YOU ALL SHOULD BE FIRED TOO tmbz1
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Trump will lift shutdown by may 1
Tracks and qualifiers within a week after that
BOOK IT
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THE DAY AFTER EACH OF THE 29 DEFENDANTS HAVE HAD THEIR DAYS IN COURT AND THEIR SENTENCE IS RENDERED
THANKS RAY SHITLICKER FOR THE IDEA... IF THE 2ND TRAINER KNEW, WELL THEN ALL OF YOU FUCKERS CLAIM TO KNOW THEY WERE CHEATIN, AND YOU ALL DIDNT DO NUTTIN. SO YOU ALL SHOULD BE FIRED TOO tmbz1
Depends on the operation. Some "2nd trainers" are no more than color bearing joggers, while others work with vets, farriers, etc, and can cut the mile. It is the latter that would bear scrutiny if any proof could be found.
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Trump will lift shutdown by may 1
Tracks and qualifiers within a week after that
BOOK IT
Will these redneck MaGa Churches be able to OBEY Easter no gathering laws?
Be great to see some mass RedNeck infestatoons.
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Unless you are a groom not paying attention you KNOW what is going on in the barn. A real 2nd trainer know the score, Did the POS even train or just oversee the operation of his stable. Tehy will open tracks when it is safe no amount of pissing and moaning will not get them opened any earlier. I think states have more to worry about the plight of harness racing.
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your right 99% of people don't care so where is the harm
but if horse people are working they spend money to help support the economy
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your right 99% of people don't care so where is the harm
but if horse people are working they spend money to help support the economy
No telling what you be towing around, besides them horses in the trailers
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1. Thats funny, horsemen helping support the economy. Most do NOT pay their bills. Not going to be many places to spend, and they already have to purchase feed bedding etc. 2. Tracks without casinos open first, that is a hell of a list, NO Pa, NY Ohio, Ky, Ind, We get Big M, Freehold, NJ Gov closed state till 5/15, but will give a dispensation for harness racing, I don´t think so. Harness racing will get a lot of free press, The cheatin scandal, Surick etc.
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Trump will lift shutdown by may 1
Tracks and qualifiers within a week after that
BOOK IT
not in OH-IO. closed until Memorial Day
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NO HARM, all you have to do is have any one in the paddock get sick with this virus, then they SHUT the place DOWN and it will take a beating in the press, and maybe some law suits. Again do you think state employees are going to want to go back to possibly get sick when they can stay home and collect UEI. Better to sit back and let it all be done, You have people in NY and Cal saying they don´t see football starting on time, maybe thanksgiving. You are delusional if you think that racing is going to be on the front burner for most states. I am sorry a lot of horseman are broke. Long ago when we didn´t race year round people actually had to plan for a down time, now we are in the age of slot money, when they take that away you are going to be really SCREWED. Do you remember what the purses at most tracks were before slot money, most tracks purses were shit. Look at the big m, state money is back, if it goes do you think Gural is going to eat the losses again.
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August in Pa,,,sounds about right
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economics 101
anyone not taking unemployment is a help not a drag on the economy, and trust me the economy is and will be in horrific shape for some time
if you are working even at or slightly above minimum wage that helps(assuming people buy food ,gas etc) to get money flowing
also racing is not hard to do, use multiple paddocks for distancing or split race card into two halves, minimal people in the paddock, no tellers needed just online wagering, take the temperature of everyone coming in the paddock, everyone wears a mask and gloves and paddock gets washed down after each card
just like going to the grocery or liquor store or car garages
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i understand that he may not be everyones favourite
however i cannot argue with his suggestions in the article
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Surick was successful and u guys just can’t stand it
Those are facts
These fckin ten paragraphs essays can be stuck up your asses
He’s goona be fine
He’s mom is a millionaire ten times over
So all you busted out losers can keep
Posting
With not without racing
NICKIE sandals. Won’t starve or have any money issues
Fact legit
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Surick was successful and u guys just can’t stand it
Those are facts
These fckin ten paragraphs essays can be stuck up your asses
He’s goona be fine
He’s mom is a millionaire ten times over
So all you busted out losers can keep
Posting
With not without racing
NICKIE sandals. Won’t starve or have any money issues
Fact legit
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Surick was successful and u guys just can’t stand it
Those are facts
These fckin ten paragraphs essays can be stuck up your asses
He’s goona be fine
He’s mom is a millionaire ten times over
So all you busted out losers can keep
Posting
With not without racing
NICKIE sandals. Won’t starve or have any money issues
Fact legit
Thank you for defending your idol.
Intercepted phone call between harness trainer Nick Surick and Navarro. Surick–You know how many fucking horses (Navarro) killed and broke down that I made disappear...You know ow much trouble he could get in...if they found out...six horses we killed?
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Great quote, only way he doesn´t do time is if he either finds a way to disappear or dies. SD of NY will get their pound of flesh. He is an animal abuser, cheat and they have him on tape admitting it. He will be held accountable, END of story.
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Thank you for defending your idol.
Intercepted phone call between harness trainer Nick Surick and Navarro. Surick–You know how many fucking horses (Navarro) killed and broke down that I made disappear...You know ow much trouble he could get in...if they found out...six horses we killed?
Navarro should have called Marc St. Louis for advice
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I don't get the negativity about racing on this site. If people don't enjoy harness racing, then why the hell do they comment on the harness site. Hopefully this corona hysteria passes soon. No doubt we will have an endless number of Monday morning quarterbacks bitching for the next year that we re-started the economy too soon. Well, if we don't get it started soon, there won't be an economy left. Being in the supply business for the race industry for several decades, i'd also like to mention that I've had more deadbeats from thoroughbred racing than I ever did from harness racing. Never could understand where the TB people got the notion that they were any better off than other forms of horse racing.
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go ask mommy if she wants to spend her life savings on that fucking loser ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
His mom has no teal money
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Everyone on here that think the POS is innocent need to wake the fuck up, he was successful because he was a cheat plain and simple. Tell us how innocent Oakes, Allard. Banca etc are, PLEASE remember the FBI have tapes, and video of transactions between these geniuses. These people were successful because they cheated. I´m not saying people don t go over the line a little but LOOK at the facts they trampled all over everybody. They screwed over everyone in the business. Do you like to race with the deck stacked against you. If found guilty they will spend time in prison it is not the county jail. The rest of their lives are ruined along with their families. I think this is far from over for these guys, remember the IRS will also be involved, how much money was made through criminal behavior. Phoney tax returns???????
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Meadows canceled Currier and Ives, supposed to be May 22, so I don´t see them opening sooner than maybe June.
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Surick was successful and u guys just can’t stand it
Those are facts
These fckin ten paragraphs essays can be stuck up your asses
He’s goona be fine
He’s mom is a millionaire ten times over
So all you busted out losers can keep
Posting
With not without racing
NICKIE sandals. Won’t starve or have any money issues
Fact legit
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Open it up on Memorial Day, we should be okay by then
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What a daily double Surick and Trump, A horse abuser and a human turd, what would be funny is Cohen leaving as they arrive, that would be justice. The only person who took responsibility goes to jail for paying for Trumps sluts.
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luc Surick was successful and you guys cant stand it
Wow Great post
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luc Surick was successful and you guys cant stand it
Wow Great post
His best yet.
Almost anyone can be successful if they cheat.