Lou Print to Ohio

[pocketrocketwinner]

You will never eliminate CAW. Especially now that AI is available to virtually anyone. It would help if the state legislatures would lower take out rates. But you will never convert slots players to handicapping. Slots require no effort and those players don’t want to work to get results

If the defendants dont settle and eliminate the CAWs themselves, their fate will lie in the hands of a jury. While nobody knows for sure what a jury will decide, to say they will never rule against them is far fetched.
Gamblers who exclusively play slots are not the ones who would come back to racing it if racing was competitively priced. There are many active gamblers in the market that do not gamble on slots

[Stan durbread]

If the defendants dont settle and eliminate the CAWs themselves, their fate will lie in the hands of a jury. While nobody knows for sure what a jury will decide, to say they will never rule against them is far fetched.
Gamblers who exclusively play slots are not the ones who would come back to racing it if racing was competitively priced. There are many active gamblers in the market that do not gamble on slots

If it goes to trial and a jury happens to rule against CAW. They will go back to the old way of having several employees making the bets for them. 20 years ago a guy from Florida had 50+ people working for him that made the actual wagers. They would get a list every morning that played out how much to wager on each horse depending on odds at 1 minute

[Call Sign Merlin]

Guessing there will be a lot of dual eligibles

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Posturing after the race and propaganda for a stallion. Plain and simple. The job now is selling shares. They're lucky they don't have/want to sell all of them, LOL.

[Kenny]

Whether he came back at 4 or not didn't matter because pulling in new fans for harness racing is virtually impossible. The majority of fans were older people, and many have passed away, and no one has replaced them. Even with T-Breds, other than Keeneland, Saratoga, Delmar's summer meet, the Triple Crown, and Breeders Cup, racetrack grandstands are basically empty.

PA taxpayers are facing a tax increase. The Governor is on the short list of candidates for president.  PA has given billions to racing over the years. It is not hard to see how the racing handouts could be on the table. If the industry cannot bring in fans to support itself, what happens when the inevitable happens? Does the entire industry move to KY?

[Kenny]

Exactly. They could clone bret Hanover and niatross and it wouldn't do a thing.

There are no fans of harness racing. Youre either a horsemen a breeder an owner or a gambler. Only way out of this is to exterminate CAWs and reduce the price to gamble to something competitive with other gambling games in the space

Do you actually think the handouts can continue forever when the general public aka voters could care less about the sport.  What is the plan if handouts are reduced or eliminated?

[Lockedin With Pace]

PA taxpayers are facing a tax increase. The Governor is on the short list of candidates for president.  PA has given billions to racing over the years. It is not hard to see how the racing handouts could be on the table. If the industry cannot bring in fans to support itself, what happens when the inevitable happens? Does the entire industry move to KY?

Bringing new fans to the track is virtually impossible because younger people have so many other options and the older fans who supported it keep dying off. Eventually the funding will stop or be reduced and the people with smaller stables will leave the game like they did when Freehold closed unless they're able to upgrade their stable which takes money.