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     Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.

      Sincerely, Silent One

              Hopefully you'll be gone decades before that! 

[BrokenHeadPole]

Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?

It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino

Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger

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Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?

It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino

Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger

      And the tracks provide huge revenue to the casinos. Besides customers, I've seen horsemen pile into casinos in droves to eat, drink, and gamble!   Many are pretty big gamblers. 

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Man, these threads are some of the best.  I can't tell if people really think in 2026 casinos need racing, or if they are just trolling.  That is the definition of great trolling, so I really hope that is the case.  Otherwise, we need more abortion! 

A country that allows its citizens to smoke marijuana, bet on political races and go into any bathroom, doesn't need permission from Cletus. 

[Lockedin with Pace]

      And the tracks provide huge revenue to the casinos. Besides customers, I've seen horsemen pile into casinos in droves to eat, drink, and gamble!   Many are pretty big gamblers. 

That may happen at a handful of tracks, but alot of the tracks today no longer have a stable area so everyone ships in and ships out. If you've ever been to Harrah's Philly it's in a bad area, almost nobody is in the simulcast area, the refreshment stand is closed most days, the casino is 3/4 empty. Owners rarely come to the track, and the drivers can't get out of there fast enough when the races are over. If any of the tracks in PA were to close in the future, they wouldn't definitely be the first.

[Calhoun]

Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?

Like Pompano?

Like Calder?

Like Hialeah?

Like Hastings?

Like Fraser?

Like Rid Car?

Like Aquaduck?

Like every dog track in Florida, NH, MA?

All got casinos or card rooms because the tracks (and the horse and dog people) wanted it, like you said.

But there are bright spots.

[rainman2]

Look at the money that Yonkers gives out in a week and look at their handle?

It's the cost of doing business for the casinos to have a casino at the track. Without the track. No Casino

Haven't seen many casinos go out of business. They get bigger and bigger

Monticello has more handle than Yonkers and their casino is down the street! 

For shits and giggles, which track will be the first one to close racing down permanently?