Tioga Handle

[yonkersfan 1]

 
In half the races the handle was less than 5k.

How do they stay open?

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In half the races the handle was less than 5k.

How do they stay open?

   The track supports the casino and vice versa .  And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.

[seen2much]

   The track supports the casino and vice versa .  And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.

Even you can't be that stupid. 

[Racetime]

I don't believe there's any tracks that actually cover the cost of racing ? Look at Shenandoah which only handle $50,000 - $60,000 a day. The cost to race is probably $15,000 for International Sound, United Tote, Roberts, Judges, Starter and Driver, Track Crew and Paddock Crew. % for online wagering is very low compared to 10 or more % for ontrack. Harness Racing needs to be very thankful for the welfare money from the Casinos.

[Kirby's Ace]

I don't believe there's any tracks that actually cover the cost of racing ? Look at Shenandoah which only handle $50,000 - $60,000 a day. The cost to race is probably $15,000 for International Sound, United Tote, Roberts, Judges, Starter and Driver, Track Crew and Paddock Crew. % for online wagering is very low compared to 10 or more % for ontrack. Harness Racing needs to be very thankful for the welfare money from the Casinos.

Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?

[silent one]

Do you think that there would be casinos at the tracks if it wasn't for the tracks lobbying for it?

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    The reason the tracks lobby for it is because there would not be any harness pari mutuel tracks left, unless the states gave them welfare money. The only reason harness racing still exists, is because of casinos. Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.

      Sincerely, Silent One

[Racetime]

How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money  ?

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    The reason the tracks lobby for it is because there would not be any harness pari mutuel tracks left, unless the states gave them welfare money. The only reason harness racing still exists, is because of casinos. Hopefully soon, decoupling will take place, and the blight named harness racing will be gone for good.

      Sincerely, Silent One

   You're such an ASSHOLE !!   

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How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money  ?

 Forever if its a big industry employing lots of people!      DUUUUHH

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https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-u-s-companies-receive-the-most-government-subsidies/

[G]

   The track supports the casino and vice versa .  And Jeff Gural may help out if its needed.

agreed. it's a great time to be involved in horse racing if you know what you're doing

[bello]

I play every Tioga card if I am home. Formful race with no fixing or drugs. Get free4 programs on their website. I wish the handles were higher so I can increase the size of my bets.

And today... Bulldog races.

[Trigger]

I play every Tioga card if I am home. Formful race with no fixing or drugs. Get free4 programs on their website. I wish the handles were higher so I can increase the size of my bets.

And today... Bulldog races.

Funny!  

Not!

[pocketrocketwinner]

Forever if its a big industry employing lots of people!      DUUUUHH

Apparently the industry isn't big or supporting lots of people in New Jersey.

Governor sherill wants to cut the welfare subsidy from 20 million to 5 million in 2027

[rainman2]

How long do you give money to a business that continues to lose money  ?

The people give their money in taxes  to their respective governments every day!!

This happens every day in different parts of the world!!