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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Kirby's Ace on January 05, 2026, 08:52:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nY6kD3HmQ
It's well worth the LONG watch!
tmbz1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nY6kD3HmQ
It's well worth the LONG watch!
tmbz1
Are you his new poster boy for his fan club? Maybe you'll take over where trigger left off as his toilet. There's a strong possibility that you're probably him another one of his 12 aliases.
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Kind of like you are with fat fuck Mark Ford! tmbz1
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Don't mind giving credit were credit is do.
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Are you his new poster boy for his fan club? Maybe you'll take over where trigger left off as his toilet. There's a strong possibility that you're probably him another one of his 12 aliases.
Is poor GagNuts mad because people support Stopping Cheats Mike ??
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Are you his new poster boy for his fan club? Maybe you'll take over where trigger left off as his toilet. There's a strong possibility that you're probably him another one of his 12 aliases.
I had to jump in on this, as you ask if someone is a poster boy for Mike or anyone for that matter. This being ask by someone I get the impression is or wants to blow fat Ford, that or he has photos you do not want anyone to see.
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I hate to say this as i always liked JEFF GURAL and believed that he was the best person that represented the betting public but i was wrong as the way he has let the BIG M get to the place it has, Did he not watch the BIGM racing when one could watch a race and enjoy the competitive and constant movement from start to finish, today its not as bad as MOHAWK but its nowhere near the way it was during the great days of racing, Does he still care and i now believe the answer is no because he is smart enough to know when watching any BIG M race that its nowhere near acceptable racing and i cant root for you to get a casino in future days because letting this racetrack get so run down with horses running on a nightly basis that look like horses look like in a maiden race at finger lakes, Does he keep the track a speed highway because BREEDERS want fast times and do not actually care about a 1980 meadowlands race that was fun to gamble at and fun to watch, Also i believe your track GM is a huge problem as i do not believe he has any insight into the key for the fan is and thats a 1980 type race.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nY6kD3HmQ
It's well worth the LONG watch!
tmbz1
Thanks Mike
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I hate to say this as i always liked JEFF GURAL and believed that he was the best person that represented the betting public but i was wrong as the way he has let the BIG M get to the place it has, Did he not watch the BIGM racing when one could watch a race and enjoy the competitive and constant movement from start to finish, today its not as bad as MOHAWK but its nowhere near the way it was during the great days of racing, Does he still care and i now believe the answer is no because he is smart enough to know when watching any BIG M race that its nowhere near acceptable racing and i cant root for you to get a casino in future days because letting this racetrack get so run down with horses running on a nightly basis that look like horses look like in a maiden race at finger lakes, Does he keep the track a speed highway because BREEDERS want fast times and do not actually care about a 1980 meadowlands race that was fun to gamble at and fun to watch, Also i believe your track GM is a huge problem as i do not believe he has any insight into the key for the fan is and thats a 1980 type race.
Just look at the driving colony there. So many bad drivers that just want to suck along for a piece of the purse.
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Just look at the driving colony there. So many bad drivers that just want to suck along for a piece of the purse.
There is a reason for the bad colony, If you look at this game 30 years ago most drivers and trainers were sons of former drivers and trainers and this went on for many moons and its not like Pierce, Campbell, Bill o and all the greats of the 80s and 90s had no kids but the game began to be so tainted with corruption and was no longer a game of pride and the Haughtans and other honest legends were never coming back and today it is very simular to watching 2 guys in the WWE full of steroids and knowing that it was never going to be real again and the kids of these hall of fame drivers went into a different world and today i never get involved with talking about great horses trained by burke and other high percentage guys. Today M1 can close and it would not bother me as far as i am concerned it closed years ago.
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Can you imagine watching a baseball podcast and 3 guys talking about who was better between SAMMY SOSA, BARRY BONDS, MARK MCGUIRE OR JOSE CANSECO,, BARRY BONDS would most likely be number one but everyone listening knows the truth and when you talk harness racing and someone says over the last 30 years who is the best trainer between BURKE OR PELLING OR ROBINSON OR COLEMAN or MOREAU AND Burke would be most every ones number one and really does that interest anyone with a brain, In the 70s when you asked it would be HAUGHTON AND DEL MILLER AND GLEN GARNSEY AND STANLEY DANCER and now that is worth talking about and again Dancer would be most people number one but this time it would mean something and ALBATROSS and ABERCROMBIE and others would be a good topic that would put a smile on your face and no true horseman or fan would put a ROBINSON or BURKE horse a an all time great,
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right. we are in the steroid era of harness racing. except is baking soda, morphine, epo, and meth. and maybe a few other performance enhancers.
there should be an asterisk next to anyone who ever had a positive. because if they got popped once it's hard to believe they have never done it before and gotten away with it.
BURKE IS THE BEST TRAINER IN THE STEROID ERA IN HARNESS RACING
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Thanks Mike
Why are you thanking yourself?
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Thanks Mike
You are welcome Kirby
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Why are you thanking yourself?
Why would Mike have to hide behind a name on here...like everybody else on this forum..he comes right out and lets you know who he is, when he's on here..You are a fucking scumbag, who it bothers that there are so many people on here, who side with Mike...so STOP licking men's assholes..(and BTW..buy a mirror...every meal...is NOT a buffet)
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if what mike does and is doing bothers you in some sort of way, you are part of the problem and are complicit.
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I thought it was right on with most of it
There’s a reason why harness racing has such a bad reputation
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things people do to these animals are you ready?
dope them up with pain killers, electrocute them, indiscriminate use of the whip. pitch forks (right ray)
i watch some dover yesterday and couldn't help to notice tony morgan reaching down and giving 2 horses nasty stifle shots. one horse he did it to just past the half. ever seen one cut open by the whip? i bet you those 2 horses yesterday were cut open or had bad welts.
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When's the last time you had your eyes examined?
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When's the last time you had your eyes examined?
Someone should slash you open with a whip..you POS
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When's the last time you had your eyes examined?
i heard and seen drivers brag about it. maybe you are part or the problem and should be dealt with as such.
the top guys dont use the whip as much. but the guys with no skill and talent know when the whip isnt going to help. maybe some are just too dumb.
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Why would Mike have to hide behind a name on here...like everybody else on this forum..he comes right out and lets you know who he is, when he's on here..You are a fucking scumbag, who it bothers that there are so many people on here, who side with Mike...so STOP licking men's assholes..(and BTW..buy a mirror...every meal...is NOT a buffet)
You do you have so many different usernames?? You think we’re all that stupid!
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Goots when is your video debut? You seem to have a lot to say!
Please post a link to your farm as well!
Now get back to your training class!
Thank you
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You do you have so many different usernames?? You think we’re all that stupid!
I have 1 screen name, Semen Breath...
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WHY WOULD ANY PERSON THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT HARNESS RACING HAVE ANY TYPE OF ISSUE WITH WHAT MIKE IS BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION.
ANYONE CHEATING BY USING CHEMS ON RACEWAY HORSES IS DOING HARM TO THE GAME.
WHY SHOULD ANY ONE PARTICIPANT BE GIVEN A LESSER PENALTY THAN OTHERS THAT ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME VIOLATIONS?
Personalities and hatred for the messenger should have no place here, at least MP gives a shit and has the balls to call it out for what it is.
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WHY WOULD ANY PERSON THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT HARNESS RACING HAVE ANY TYPE OF ISSUE WITH WHAT MIKE IS BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION.
ANYONE CHEATING BY USING CHEMS ON RACEWAY HORSES IS DOING HARM TO THE GAME.
WHY SHOULD ANY ONE PARTICIPANT BE GIVEN A LESSER PENALTY THAN OTHERS THAT ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME VIOLATIONS?
Personalities and hatred for the messenger should have no place here, at least MP gives a shit and has the balls to call it out for what it is.
You are 100% correct. Why shoot the messenger? The people who invested in harness racing, work at it. or are just fans of it, should be appalled at how some horses are treated in this business.
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On every circuit, at every training centre, public or private exist many horsemen, and I'll use that term loosely, that can't play by the rules. They will buy and inject anything that will stop a horse from bleeding, block lameness and increase red blood cell count. Some even go as far as injecting or tubing drugs that make horses heart beat 20% faster than it natural would. It's been like that for at least 30 years, that's as long as I've witnessed it and no doubt, even after the Fishman take down, continues to this day. Vets are primarily to blame for making these products available. Some pharmaceutical companies are also to blame with their mail order business flourishing in the past 20 years thanks to the Internet. Like the majority of criminals roaming the streets, they are never got the first time and many will evade punishment for a very long time, if ever. As with your local police, racing commissions are futile, in large part due to always being one step behind in what to test for and when. Some are also just indifferent. What I can't understand is how all the good and righteous people, and they are many, demand more of their local horsemen's groups. Like how long are you going to put in 80 hours a week only to scratch and claw out a meagre life. How long can you stay silent while a dozen cheaters bankrolled by approximately two dozen scumbag owners continue to damage the sport to a point. And if it's akin to The Thin Blue Line well, here's a little cheat sheet for you'll: if you will not fight for the horses and sport, then you will be finding another occupation very soon. The amount of contraction in this sport in the last 15 years is staggering. Wake the fuck up, organize at the grassroots level by voting in better personnel into your local Horsemen's groups. If you're waiting on Gural or any racetrack operator you better think again, they have their own agenda. Racing commissions need help, I'd recommend you be that help. Get rid of every damn horsemen that was on Fishman's list, that are not your friends. Time to start putting integrity back into the care of the horse. I guess what I'm trying to say is change will have to come within the ranks.
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WHY WOULD ANY PERSON THAT TRULY CARES ABOUT HARNESS RACING HAVE ANY TYPE OF ISSUE WITH WHAT MIKE IS BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION.
ANYONE CHEATING BY USING CHEMS ON RACEWAY HORSES IS DOING HARM TO THE GAME.
WHY SHOULD ANY ONE PARTICIPANT BE GIVEN A LESSER PENALTY THAN OTHERS THAT ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME VIOLATIONS?
Personalities and hatred for the messenger should have no place here, at least MP gives a shit and has the balls to call it out for what it is.
You are 100 percent right but how can it work with ex trainers and drivers as judges and big farms and ex trainers running the USTA writing articles that never look to correct wrongs and believing that if you do not talk about it that it will all vanish, Until horsemen have zero say in this game there will be corruption at the highest level, Is there not one horse person owner trainer and driver that has ever said to himself that i am going to do everything i can to get rid of the people hurting my game, put the gamblers in charge of cleaning this game like poker does and it works because they do something about the cheating and unlike horse racing that allows groups into the pools and lets computer bettors bet when seeing a horse offstride behind and they damage all pools from tris to super to wps pools and in poker if you are using your phone to find out what is the best play you can make at the time you will be kicked out as has happened often lately and thats because the players know advantage play will drive everyone away from the game, When i read people talk about certain trainers and call people jealous for calling out the cheats or say sorry you lost your 2 dollars i wonder how i dont see many comments about these fools, Mr GURAL can improve this game by getting rid of his joke GM and get people involved that are willing to make changes
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On every circuit, at every training centre, public or private exist many horsemen, and I'll use that term loosely, that can't play by the rules. They will buy and inject anything that will stop a horse from bleeding, block lameness and increase red blood cell count. Some even go as far as injecting or tubing drugs that make horses heart beat 20% faster than it natural would. It's been like that for at least 30 years, that's as long as I've witnessed it and no doubt, even after the Fishman take down, continues to this day. Vets are primarily to blame for making these products available. Some pharmaceutical companies are also to blame with their mail order business flourishing in the past 20 years thanks to the Internet. Like the majority of criminals roaming the streets, they are never got the first time and many will evade punishment for a very long time, if ever. As with your local police, racing commissions are futile, in large part due to always being one step behind in what to test for and when. Some are also just indifferent. What I can't understand is how all the good and righteous people, and they are many, demand more of their local horsemen's groups. Like how long are you going to put in 80 hours a week only to scratch and claw out a meagre life. How long can you stay silent while a dozen cheaters bankrolled by approximately two dozen scumbag owners continue to damage the sport to a point. And if it's akin to The Thin Blue Line well, here's a little cheat sheet for you'll: if you will not fight for the horses and sport, then you will be finding another occupation very soon. The amount of contraction in this sport in the last 15 years is staggering. Wake the fuck up, organize at the grassroots level by voting in better personnel into your local Horsemen's groups. If you're waiting on Gural or any racetrack operator you better think again, they have their own agenda. Racing commissions need help, I'd recommend you be that help. Get rid of every damn horsemen that was on Fishman's list, that are not your friends. Time to start putting integrity back into the care of the horse. I guess what I'm trying to say is change will have to come within the ranks.
For me this is the best post ever on this site by a mile