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Title: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on September 27, 2025, 11:23:18 AM
Congratulations to the worthy inductees, both human and equine.

https://ustrottingnews.com/saratoga-honors-harness-hall-of-fame-class-of-2025/
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 09:09:54 AM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Kirby's Ace on November 14, 2025, 10:35:03 AM
Yeah thats bad. Like I said before
 Many years ago when he was at Dover probably around 87 or 88. Another horseman that I knew said he went to Mark's residents and he said his basement was like a lab loaded with stuff that Mark used for pre race concoctions! He said you wouldn't believe the set up he had!

True story!
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 14, 2025, 10:49:55 AM
Shameful. Disgusting. not suprising from this industry.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 01:04:10 PM
Shameful. Disgusting. not suprising from this industry.

And the majority of the people in the game will just keep taking it dry up the ass and let this happen. I still read people in the game including the photographer up there praising this guy like they're carrying him through the fucking streets on their shoulders. PATHETIC.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on November 14, 2025, 01:06:26 PM
Congratulations to these successful horsemen and photographer Jessica   tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 14, 2025, 01:08:55 PM
Successful at buying EPO through Tom Guido and Lou Grasso!! Like putting El Chapo in the Pharmaceutical Hall Of Fame!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: PIGLAND on November 14, 2025, 03:53:58 PM
betwith deserves prison.

did cash me out ever win a race on hay and oats?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 14, 2025, 05:30:15 PM
For many years, I blamed the horsemen for not coming forward and ratting on cheaters. I have changed my way of thinking on that and the reason is that I know for a fact that certain people called the FBI, State Police and Attorney General and was told they needed actual evidence for them to do anything. Well, I feel that there is plenty of evidence possessed by those authorities and they have done NOTHING!!! This bullshit of testing horses is not working. Why aren't the authorities obtaining search warrants and raiding some of these criminals'homes? No one is going to convince me that there isn't enough probable cause for judges to sign off on search warrants.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Blue Skies on November 14, 2025, 06:44:04 PM
This is the sentiment of 95% of the horseman in NY and Saratoga. The entire world knows that Saratoga is completely run by a criminal enterprise. One that runs from zero penalties for class A positives to manipulated draws. Putting Mark Beckwith in the hall of fame is just another reason nobody acknowledges it's foolishness. Two of the last 4 people nominated refused the nomination. So here we are. Watching Jay Randall (who deserves whatever honor there is) entering with one of the businesses greatest criminals. Horses in %50 of the barns. Non stop positive tests year after year after year for HORMONES, sheepwormer etc). One of Seth Fischmans biggest clients who still uses BB3! And Saratoga hall of fame enters someone with all of this as well as being barred from multiple tracks that are only a few hours away. Ignorance is bliss is exactly right. The people just sit back and take it. Year after year they rob the locals. Positive? Put them in Marks name. The track actually allowed them to put Melissa back down again!! How long till the testosterone shows up for the 7th time? Saratoga gets what they deserve. And the hall of fame is about as relevant as the employee of the month at Market 32.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: toothman on November 14, 2025, 06:47:32 PM
who were the two that declined nomination?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: remington on November 15, 2025, 09:32:03 AM
The horseman call Mark larceny behind his back.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on November 15, 2025, 09:43:40 AM
betwith deserves prison.

did cash me out ever win a race on hay and oats?

Cash Me Out and Prime Interest, both HOF Saratoga, started out with Mickey McGivern.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 15, 2025, 10:22:18 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lockedin With Pace on November 15, 2025, 10:26:44 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on November 15, 2025, 10:27:49 AM
 tmbz1   tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 15, 2025, 10:48:44 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.

People in this industry are one of a kind
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 10:51:49 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.

By pre racing you're admitting first he puts the horses at risk by injecting whatever garbage in their veins. Using an illegal advantage to steal from others and defraud the bettors. But, he's a great guy!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on November 15, 2025, 11:19:57 AM
Mark is a great guy, but he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame because of his underhanded tactics in regards to pre-racing horses.
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 11:21:11 AM
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

2 times Chapter 13 equals the Cunt still has no discarge, except from between his legs.  ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Calhoun on November 15, 2025, 11:25:40 AM
Mike Petrelli PreTax Driver Traner earnings ... <$5,000 in 35+ years.

No wonder his kids hate him.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on November 15, 2025, 11:32:55 AM
Few people care about the Saratoga Harness Hall of Fame.

Just those who hate people that are in or jealous.

Or are BustOuts like Petrelli who yells at horsemen and their horses while they are training.

It's a garbage distinction given by a garbage racetrack in a garbage industry.

Disagree. Some people like me find this topic to be completely fascinating
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Ignorance Is Bliss on November 15, 2025, 11:40:14 AM
Mike Petrelli PreTax Driver Traner earnings ... <$5,000 in 35+ years.

No wonder his kids hate him.

Sure they do. Notice anything the cunt typed? My name, because unlike the cunt who doesn't pay his debts I don't hide. Type type type....STOP CRYING.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on November 15, 2025, 02:27:38 PM

  Saratoga itself is a pretty corrupt place any how
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: captain morgan on November 16, 2025, 10:23:57 AM
The horsemen love Beck. Great guy they say
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:29:03 AM
By pre racing you're admitting first he puts the horses at risk by injecting whatever garbage in their veins. Using an illegal advantage to steal from others and defraud the bettors. But, he's a great guy!!!  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
if you ever have met him, you would think the same thing he’s a nice guy. I’m sure there’s people you have met Mike that have pre-race  horses that are very likable. I guess you’ve never pre-raced or had a veterinarian pre-race your horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:30:14 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.
I guess you’ve never have met him.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 10:33:02 AM
The horsemen love Beck. Great guy they say
Very nice guy. Mark has done me a couple of favors, but because he pre-race his horses I’m not supposed to like him. Thankfully, I formed my own opinions.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Lieutenant Sanchez on November 16, 2025, 11:19:15 AM
Mark has been known to help trainers who claim off of him and can't get the horse to go, now that is unheard of in this cutthroat business. Most would tell you to enjoy eating the horse.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 16, 2025, 12:17:04 PM
Mark has been known to help trainers who claim off of him and can't get the horse to go, now that is unheard of in this cutthroat business. Most would tell you to enjoy eating the horse.
he’s hard not to like he’s done a few favors for me as well but according to the holy Grail, if you pre-raise you’re no good.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: seen2much on November 16, 2025, 03:18:06 PM
Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 17, 2025, 09:32:44 AM
Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pacer 2 on November 17, 2025, 10:09:21 AM
Years ago I saw Lou Pena would be having a beer. It was at the Meadowlands. The big bar inside of the track apron. It was before Gural took over. Someone I was with said Lou is a nice guy. He went up to him and talked. Pena offered him a beer. That doesn't change anything. If you are cheating it hurts the other owners, bettors, and ruins the game. Being a nice guy does not excuse juicing. The game is a joke and continues to celebrate the bad actors.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?   
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Muyway on November 17, 2025, 01:13:38 PM
Doesnt melissa train Betwith horses how is mark hall of fame and take credit for wins he didnt half?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: seen2much on November 17, 2025, 01:55:49 PM
Lou is a nice guy I have no idea the correlation between being a nice person and pre-racing.

You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.

             Isnt baseball, basketball, football, track, soccer, boxing, cycling, politics and business a joke too?
You left off Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on November 17, 2025, 03:05:39 PM
Why is there even a discussion whether someone who is cheating is directly, indirectly, tangentially, or whatever, stealing from you, or anyone else for that matter. That's the victimless crime BS. It's cheating. It hurts everyone, including the horses.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Sakit on November 18, 2025, 09:35:18 AM
You are a sucker if you think someone is a nice guy...who is stealing from you. That is my point.
You left off Pacer 2  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I don’t get your point. He’s never stolen from me.
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Yonkers1A on November 18, 2025, 11:08:57 AM
How can he be a great guy if he uses underhanded tactics in regard to pre-racing horses, you can't have it both ways.

 tmbz1

Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 21, 2025, 05:21:54 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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It all makes sense, now  tmbz1
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 30, 2025, 07:06:44 PM
Interesting. So who's next in Goshen? Devita, Taylor and the rest of the "Who Got List"? Unfuckingreal.  ngc3
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It All Makes Sense Now  ;D
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Harness racer on November 30, 2025, 07:11:43 PM
Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?
Title: Re: Saratoga Harness HOF ceremony
Post by: Pool Guy on November 30, 2025, 07:22:03 PM
Not a good look for Mark.  Where are the sympathizers now?
Eating family dinner  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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