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Title: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: whiptherabbit on August 26, 2025, 11:48:02 AM
Race#3-#3 WENDELL BLUE CHIP 6-1 ML Hannah’s the harness in Baillargeon barn for tonight’s event. Benoit has long had success with trotters coming over to his barn. I’ll expect some improvements tonight & hopefully some value.

Race#6-#6 PICK A GENRE 5-1 ML Raced good the last two starts, $8000 claimers generally aren’t consistent, expect Henry to activate him off the wings.

Best of luck!  tmbz1
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: seen2much on August 26, 2025, 06:45:36 PM
In race 1 #8 improved in last & driver creates a price. Will he be able to get the horse involved. WP
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: whiptherabbit on August 26, 2025, 08:53:34 PM
Wendell Blue Chip was bumpy as shit, can’t believe stayed trotting, looked like he wanted to jump about 10x.

Pick A Genre , lol blasted down to 2-5 at the gate, disgusting!
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: pylon on August 27, 2025, 11:45:10 AM
Wendell Blue Chip was bumpy as shit, can’t believe stayed trotting, looked like he wanted to jump about 10x.

Pick A Genre , lol blasted down to 2-5 at the gate, disgusting!

I downloaded the program the night before and scoped out a couple of plays..Pick a Genre was one of them...as they circled around the car he was 2/1 as they approached the start he was 9/5 ..im on HPI Bet ready to bet figuring ..ok the horse will probably go to 8/5...decent price..i placed my bet..only to discover that he was bet down to 2/5...this is why i quit spending serious coin at Mohawk...only the occasional small wager.....after a lifetime of banging out the bucks at Greenwood, Garden City and Mohawk.....things wont change....im a dyed in the wool Win bettor....its now becoming a clown show there
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: whiptherabbit on August 27, 2025, 03:07:58 PM
I can’t help but agree with you pylon, wholeheartedly….
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: pylon on August 27, 2025, 06:34:19 PM
I can’t help but agree with you pylon, wholeheartedly….

Rabbit..for example..take a look at Friday,s program...it interests me about as much as a Eunuch in a Harem
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Mrpick5 on August 27, 2025, 08:28:22 PM
I downloaded the program the night before and scoped out a couple of plays..Pick a Genre was one of them...as they circled around the car he was 2/1 as they approached the start he was 9/5 ..im on HPI Bet ready to bet figuring ..ok the horse will probably go to 8/5...decent price..i placed my bet..only to discover that he was bet down to 2/5...this is why i quit spending serious coin at Mohawk...only the occasional small wager.....after a lifetime of banging out the bucks at Greenwood, Garden City and Mohawk.....things wont change....im a dyed in the wool Win bettor....its now becoming a clown show there
[/quote  I also did the same thing. I keyed in a good sized win bet at what I thought was 9/5. As they leave the gate and Henry is obviously on a down the road mission at the 1/4 pole 2/5. I wanted to cancel my win bet.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Any1Left on August 28, 2025, 08:00:09 AM
I downloaded the program the night before and scoped out a couple of plays..Pick a Genre was one of them...as they circled around the car he was 2/1 as they approached the start he was 9/5 ..im on HPI Bet ready to bet figuring ..ok the horse will probably go to 8/5...decent price..i placed my bet..only to discover that he was bet down to 2/5...this is why i quit spending serious coin at Mohawk...only the occasional small wager.....after a lifetime of banging out the bucks at Greenwood, Garden City and Mohawk.....things wont change....im a dyed in the wool Win bettor....its now becoming a clown show there
Please do not bring up the truth it bothers people,   Lets pretend that the horses having an EDGE start are not dropping huge in odds
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Any1Left on August 28, 2025, 08:06:18 AM
I read a plopster say months ago that all the big players are still playing and that was the most retarded post i have ever seen as every single person i know does not play and will never play again,      It shows you how many gamblers are left when no one talks about this issue as it is the biggest issue in the history of harness racing,
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: MOHAWK FREAK on August 28, 2025, 10:53:47 AM
  Woodbine has gone from my favorite track to wager to the one I now avoid. I haven’t bet there in a while but haven’t missed watching every race since they are on YouTube live. What is the ratio of horses going up in odds to going down in odds when they win?? I have seen one in 5 months.  Every winner drops in value. Then when it’s time to bet into a large pool they move the mandatory payout to the afternoon. Fuck them.  I do like to watch Beau Jangles race though. 
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Any1Left on August 28, 2025, 12:55:10 PM
  Woodbine has gone from my favorite track to wager to the one I now avoid. I haven’t bet there in a while but haven’t missed watching every race since they are on YouTube live. What is the ratio of horses going up in odds to going down in odds when they win?? I have seen one in 5 months.  Every winner drops in value. Then when it’s time to bet into a large pool they move the mandatory payout to the afternoon. Fuck them.  I do like to watch Beau Jangles race though.
They take a 25 percent chop in tri and super bets and allow this to happen thinking that no one will figure it out but after losing every day like most have they start to figure it out,  A 25 percent chop with no protection\    I think the lottery is a way better shot than horse racing these days and less stressful .     Any gamblers left that are getting sick of being abused.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: It's Post Time on August 28, 2025, 01:02:43 PM
Pennsylvania takeout rate on trifectas & superfectas is between 30% and 35% which is even worse.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 01:13:39 PM
They take a 25 percent chop in tri and super bets and allow this to happen thinking that no one will figure it out but after losing every day like most have they start to figure it out,  A 25 percent chop with no protection\    I think the lottery is a way better shot than horse racing these days and less stressful .     Any gamblers left that are getting sick of being abused.

No bro, it ain't.

Sure throw a 5 bux for a shot to win windfall cash, but I got paid $40 bux on something that is 607-1 odds.  3 mega millions balls on 4x, fuck that shit! 

We have to be cognizant of not just picking winners, not just aligning them with smart wagers but true value strategies that justify the track's rake.

Not to name names but one ADW I use, not for a while though has currently a ZERO rake promotion on the SPA.  You hit a win for example and they pay you on your ticket plus the rake or take out % in full.  Offering at major tracks on various calendar dates, then again my primary has the best rebates too.  Have to evaluate and do the math on each one.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Calhoun on August 28, 2025, 05:10:38 PM


Not to name names but one ADW I use, not for a while though has currently a ZERO rake promotion on the SPA.  You hit a win for example and they pay you on your ticket plus the rake or take out % in full.  Offering at major tracks on various calendar dates, then again my primary has the best rebates too.  Have to evaluate and do the math on each one.

Calhoun says good luck with getting filthy rich betting 25%+ takeout pools.

Calhoun also says, yeah sure, ok when someone claims to have a super-secret ADW that offers "the best rebates," but won't/can't name it.

Why not name it?

Be a HorsePlop hero and tell us. 

No PMs on this



Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 05:30:35 PM
Calhoun says good luck with getting filthy rich betting 25%+ takeout pools.

Calhoun also says, yeah sure, ok when someone claims to have a super-secret ADW that offers "the best rebates," but won't/can't name it.

Why not name it?

Be a HorsePlop hero and tell us. 

No PMs on this

More like a respect thing, not to advertise someone's shit here, but here you go boss!   tmbz1

https://www.amwager.com/
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 05:33:59 PM
I get VIP wherever I go, so it's not a secret, amount of money bet, my wagers are mostly exotics.

At $4-5k avg a week in wagers I'm bottom on the VIP rung.

Amwager was special because their promo was reimbursing the take out on certain tracks / days / certain type winning wagers.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: It's Post Time on August 28, 2025, 05:40:49 PM
I had an account with them at one time until a new law that was passed which charged certain ADW's a 10% fee for taking wagers from customers in certain states, so they closed my account along with 2 other ADW's I bet with.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 05:44:00 PM
I had an account with them at one time until a new law that was passed which charged certain ADW's a 10% fee for taking wagers from customers in certain states, so they closed my account along with 2 other ADW's I bet with.

Maybe that was just special for you because you're a cuntface that goes into live wagering threads and starts shit!  ngc3

Fucking deadbeat too!   ;D
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: It's Post Time on August 28, 2025, 05:45:41 PM
If anyone would know what a deadbeat is it would be you, a compulsive gambler who loses 95% of the time and loves insulting other people because you're an asshole who thinks you're better than everyone else.
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: It's Post Time on August 28, 2025, 05:48:31 PM
I get VIP wherever I go, so it's not a secret, amount of money bet, my wagers are mostly exotics.

At $4-5k avg a week in wagers I'm bottom on the VIP rung.

Amwager was special because their promo was reimbursing the take out on certain tracks / days / certain type winning wagers.


What good are $300 in weekly rewards when you're losing a couple thousand a week?
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 05:59:03 PM

What good are $300 in weekly rewards when you're losing a couple thousand a week?

If you bet $4k and win no bets, then you're losing $4k.

If you deposit $2k and win $5k in winnings, have $4k in wagers, then no.

You walk into a casino with $100 bux, walk out with a $100 bux and have made $10,000 in bets.

Each week is different, but you're very first posts are coming in to a live gambling thread and talking shit, turns out all your adw's tossed you so you're just a jealous, bitter cunt.

Eventually we figure it out here, who is who and why they are the way they are!   ;D
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: It's Post Time on August 28, 2025, 06:13:26 PM
Wrong again chief. I live in PA and was wagering with a smaller ADW called  IdaBet which is located in Idaho and was very friendly with the owner. I was receiving daily rewards averaging 5 percent or more depending on the wager and also monthly rewards .Then about 6 or 7 years ago the idiot legislators in passed a bill slapping the 10 percent fee on them for taking wagers from people in. PA. They thought by doing so if would increase in track attendance and handle which had no chance of happening. Alot of the smaller ADW's have stopped taking wagers from people in certain states because of the same law. The bigger ADW's are still able to take wagers because they must have paid them off
Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Trigger on August 28, 2025, 06:22:02 PM
Wrong again chief. I live in PA and was wagering with a smaller ADW called  IdaBet which is located in Idaho and was very friendly with the owner. I was receiving daily rewards averaging 5 percent or more depending on the wager and also monthly rewards .Then about 6 or 7 years ago the idiot legislators in passed a bill slapping the 10 percent fee on them for taking wagers from people in. PA. They thought by doing so if would increase in track attendance and handle which had no chance of happening. Alot of the smaller ADW's have stopped taking wagers from people in certain states because of the same law. The bigger ADW's are still able to take wagers because they must have paid them off

If I, we put our shit out there and you want to rub salt in on a cooler, losing streak, have at it, me personally it's motivation to turn it around, rooting against peoples bets https://www.horseplop.com/index.php?topic=81373.msg1220726#msg1220726 , another low, but have at it.


But don't cry wolf when you get it back!   ;D

Title: Re: Mohawk Tuesday
Post by: Any1Left on August 28, 2025, 06:28:05 PM
No bro, it ain't.

Sure throw a 5 bux for a shot to win windfall cash, but I got paid $40 bux on something that is 607-1 odds.  3 mega millions balls on 4x, fuck that shit! 

We have to be cognizant of not just picking winners, not just aligning them with smart wagers but true value strategies that justify the track's rake.

Not to name names but one ADW I use, not for a while though has currently a ZERO rake promotion on the SPA.  You hit a win for example and they pay you on your ticket plus the rake or take out % in full.  Offering at major tracks on various calendar dates, then again my primary has the best rebates too.  Have to evaluate and do the math on each one.
Everyone knows that lottery play is a poor play but at least when you win you know your payoff and betting a horse at 4-1 and getting 3-5 when he lines up well leaving the gate and the lottery can be life changing but every gambler who plays the track feels no protection ,
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