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Title: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Jctoronto on June 20, 2025, 09:47:09 AM
Dated June 20, '25 story..in hindsight, looks like late USTA posting to me.
https://ustrottingnews.com/usta-findings-and-conclusions-in-the-matters-of-connie-jenkins-pamela-wagner-stacey-mclenaghan-ashley-mulkern-adrian-wisher-jr/
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 10:10:10 AM
And Braden gets nothing! GTFOH He was the ringleader other than Wagner. If they got the boot, then McLenaghan and Braden should as well!

So, The only winner in all of this is the USTA, Not the horseman who got defrauded. Nowhere does it say the purse money had to be returned for redistribution. Just fines and where does that money go? USTA!

Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Birdfantammy on June 20, 2025, 10:15:04 AM
And Braden gets nothing! GTFOH He was the ringleader other than Wagner. If they got the boot, then McLenaghan and Braden should as well!

So, The only winner in all of this is the USTA, Not the horseman who got defrauded. Nowhere does it say the purse money had to be returned for redistribution. Just fines and where does that money go? USTA!

I agree 100%  !!!    Purse money should be returned and redistributed.   Other horseman got SCREWED in all this!   Hopefully we will never see a Wagner at a track again.  But Stacey, Wisher and Braden should all get the boot as well.  They were ALL in on the corruption.  And also, Rosecroft should be held accountable as they were also in on this.  If you look at who runs that place...something tells me they knew what was going on and allowed it.  This was one hell of a corruption ring.  Quite disgusting. 
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 10:21:33 AM
Maybe Wagner will learn he's a bad cheat and thief..He always has gets caught but keeps on coming back again. Guarantee he's not out of the business 100% I just hope the IRS gets involved in all of this!
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: SwankToliverA on June 20, 2025, 11:01:53 AM
I don't see how the USTA didn't determine that all of their conduct in relation to this investigation is detrimental to the Sport.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 11:04:20 AM
I don't see how the USTA didn't determine that all of their conduct in relation to this investigation is detrimental to the Sport.

I can answer that! Boils down to who you are and whose ass your head is buried in. For example, how the FUCK is this guy still in good standing?????
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Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: SwankToliverA on June 20, 2025, 11:51:54 AM
I can answer that! Boils down to who you are and whose ass your head is buried in. For example, how the FUCK is this guy still in good standing?????
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Devita should not be in good standing, he should have already been suspended, license revoked indefinitely and heavily fined.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: The Unstable on June 20, 2025, 11:55:37 AM
445 thousand dollar fine.   That has to be a record.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 01:06:32 PM
I agree about Davita. How can he still be racing? The proof is right there!
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness racer on June 20, 2025, 03:59:40 PM
That is fucking nuts most of them are welcomed back with no fines.  This is criminal and nothing will ever happen.  Fuck the usta, Maryland and Virginia harness racing! 
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: All trot on June 20, 2025, 05:25:08 PM
 Didn’t fill out paperwork properly with horseman’s bookkeeper so they have yet to recieve purse money from Md sire stakes at RCR. But can make fake Wells Fargo bank statements 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Yonkers1A on June 20, 2025, 05:34:50 PM
What the Wagners did happens on a regular basis. USTA needs to hire a forensic accountant with the fines they received
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 05:36:33 PM
Didn’t fill out paperwork properly with horseman’s bookkeeper so they have yet to recieve purse money from Md sire stakes at RCR. But can make fake Wells Fargo bank statements 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Unless Racing commission somehow intercepts it. I don't see how they can hold it once the paperwork part is straightened out. No ruling was for them to return purse money Guess this is a case for Howard Taylor!
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 05:40:11 PM
Unless Racing commission somehow intercepts it. I don't see how they can hold it once the paperwork part is straightened out. No ruling was for them to return purse money Guess this is a case for Howard Taylor!

Did you say you need Howard???? I can make a call to someone who's a REALLY REALLY GOOD FRIEND of Howard for you! https://youtu.be/mRF5-oEzH20
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 05:42:40 PM
What the Wagners did happens on a regular basis. USTA needs to hire a forensic accountant with the fines they received

They will appeal and Howie will strike a deal and they'll be lucky to get a dime! Unless there's a way for garnishment this case is over and done. They'll hide all assets and move on.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 05:46:22 PM
Did you say you need Howard???? I can make a call to someone who's a REALLY REALLY GOOD FRIEND of Howard for you! https://youtu.be/mRF5-oEzH20

Have him call Pamela Wagner. This case is what he lives for!

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Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 05:46:34 PM
They will appeal and Howie will strike a deal and they'll be lucky to get a dime! Unless there's a way for garnishment this case is over and done. They'll hide all assets and move on.

Garnishment? Wouldn't that require some kind of actual court order/judgement? Not the USTA clown court.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 05:54:17 PM
Garnishment? Wouldn't that require some kind of actual court order/judgement? Not the USTA clown court.

Exactly. Thats why they'll never see a cent. I don't know if the USTA can get a court order for garnishment or not. Another question for HT!  ;D
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 05:57:06 PM
Exactly. Thats why they'll never see a cent. I don't know if the USTA can get a court order for garnishment or not. Another question for HT!  ;D

They could make the fine a Dr. Evil one billion kajillion gazillion dollars and makes no difference. Plus aren't these open ended detrimental to harness racing revocations? So what leverage do they have except for saying if not paid you can't get your membership back. And exactly how would a 501c6 account for these funds? Who are the victims???
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 06:04:10 PM
They could make the fine a Dr. Evil one billion kajillion gazillion dollars and makes no difference. Plus aren't these open ended detrimental to harness racing revocations? So what leverage do they have except for saying if not paid you can't get your membership back. And exactly how would a 501c6 account for these funds? Who are the victims???

Yeah. I'm not too sure on the legality..But something in the realm of obtaining financial gain through false pretense or fraud? I'm not a lawyer and don't know the laws concerning this fiasco.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 06:06:54 PM
Yeah. I'm not too sure on the legality..But something in the realm of obtaining financial gain through false pretense or fraud? I'm not a lawyer and don't know the laws concerning this fiasco.

The USTA and SRIF or whatever they want to call themselves have ZERO power to collect much less levy anything against anyone. This isn't a financial responsibility case like not paying fines where they can suspend your membership and stop you in your tracks. Only one I see that will work is the Stacy woman who got the $5000, if she doesn't pay they can squeeze her.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 06:09:45 PM
The USTA and SRIF or whatever they want to call themselves have ZERO power to collect much less levy anything against anyone. This isn't a financial responsibility case like not paying fines where they can suspend your membership and stop you in your tracks. Only one I see that will work is the Stacy woman who got the $5000, if she doesn't pay they can squeeze her.

Wagner paid that, I'm sure. 100%
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 20, 2025, 06:11:08 PM
Wagner paid that, I'm sure. 100%

And a nice tip.
Title: Re: If this is news already posted, apologies. USTA and conclusions
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 20, 2025, 06:21:33 PM
And a nice tip.

How she gets away with no days is beyond me. But they gave the brother  O0 15! Racist bastards!
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