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Brown jug

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2019, 01:28:25 PM »
well no shortage of opinions
lets be honest , most people like to attack the stable because it and amac are out there, always doing updates etc
I don't see anyone calling out luc blais( or others) when he runs out a $250 k yearling purchase that is now 3 and a maiden
stuff happens
the nice thing is that nobody HAS to join the stable , free choice
also it is like the stock market some people make money some don't
in horse racing some people actually make money ( yes it is tough) and some don't
some people are just smarter and luckier in  the horses they own
and while I understand that the 2 yr season is important I am pretty sure that the horses are allowed to come back and race at 3 and even 4 and beyond so don't expect to recoup the whole price of the horse in  the 2 yr season

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #76 on: September 05, 2019, 01:35:53 PM »
He wants a paper trail and going through auction accomplishes that. With so many owners on one horse he can't call everybody to ask them if they will take $11,000.00--A lot of horses get sold with trainer taking a cut under the table so auction is proper way.

     I read his perspective a few yrs ago and the imaginary prices he was evaluating the stock was insane.
He had a 2 y/o that did not make the races and he put down that his value was 40K , he was a 25K purchase as a yearling.

Amac is getting rich NO ONE ELSE.

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #77 on: September 05, 2019, 01:40:04 PM »
6K a month wow. 3 months to get ready and 6 months of racing 9 x 6K = $54,000.00 so your break even would be close to 60K impossible.

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #78 on: September 05, 2019, 01:57:00 PM »
6K a month wow. 3 months to get ready and 6 months of racing 9 x 6K = $54,000.00 so your break even would be close to 60K impossible.

Bingo. And that was for a nw2 horse. Much higher a month for horses that ship and are in higher classes

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #79 on: September 05, 2019, 01:59:09 PM »
6K a month wow. 3 months to get ready and 6 months of racing 9 x 6K = $54,000.00 so your break even would be close to 60K impossible.

I am not doubting his numbers but looking at a horse like spend that money who raced in ohio during stakes season was $3,000 for the month.
Maybe there was a large vet bill or something like that.

My issue was purple sheet was on here a year ago how great he was doing with the stable.
Ends up buying a few pigs & then starts blaming everyone else but himself..

I have bought plenty of goats but nobody gets blamed other then me..
GIMME SOME MONEY..I am looking for pound notes, loosee change, bad checks, anything..

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2019, 02:06:11 PM »
I am not doubting his numbers but looking at a horse like spend that money who raced in ohio during stakes season was $3,000 for the month.
Maybe there was a large vet bill or something like that.

My issue was purple sheet was on here a year ago how great he was doing with the stable.
Ends up buying a few pigs & then starts blaming everyone else but himself..

I have bought plenty of goats but nobody gets blamed other then me..

I was applauding him when I only had babies training down once they started racing and I saw that they weren't what he said they were and I saw that the bills were higher than they said they were I changed my opinion it has nothing to do with the horses not working out I've been in this game 30 years I understand horses don't work out

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2019, 02:12:47 PM »
I was applauding him when I only had babies training down once they started racing and I saw that they weren't what he said they were and I saw that the bills were higher than they said they were I changed my opinion it has nothing to do with the horses not working out I've been in this game 30 years I understand horses don't work out

& not here representing the stable -& do agree with some of your assessments..
Just think it is time to move on.

Honestly you come here a bad mouth the guy- essentially call him a criminal & then are outraged when he doesn't gift wrap a horse for you.
Business is business but why would he do you any favors..
& you have bought a horse off him before that went backward so we all can make miscalculations..

GIMME SOME MONEY..I am looking for pound notes, loosee change, bad checks, anything..

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2019, 02:23:51 PM »
I was applauding him when I only had babies training down once they started racing and I saw that they weren't what he said they were and I saw that the bills were higher than they said they were I changed my opinion it has nothing to do with the horses not working out I've been in this game 30 years I understand horses don't work out
Now you're telling me:

1.  With 6-7 straight winning years behind you
2.  You bought a bunch of babies with the guy
3.  You didn't do enough research on what his bills would be.
4.  You lost money
5.  Nonetheless, you just tried to buy off him
6.  You didn't get the deal
7.  So you're crying.

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2019, 02:41:01 PM »
Impossible to make any money in shares
6k a month plus plus.  Is in Allard zone Anthony ain't In Allards world or will he ever bee.
Everyone promises monster when they training down
Most are nothin

Everyone eats bad horse buys .

6 k a month plus plus is very steep
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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2019, 03:05:58 PM »
guys, just to clarify
 the bills on average are not $6k month
certainly not for the entire season and certainly not for all horses
to suggest you need to make $60 k to break even on just the monthly bills( no purchase price factored in ) is wrong

perhaps in the odd occassion where some vet work was required and a bunch of shipping  and starting fees etc than perhaps
and yes the usa bills can be higher
good horses cost money to race
you do always have the option of buying Ontario breds which race within an hour of the farm so shipping is minimal , no usa issues to deal with

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2019, 03:14:11 PM »
Now you're telling me:

1.  With 6-7 straight winning years behind you
2.  You bought a bunch of babies with the guy
3.  You didn't do enough research on what his bills would be.
4.  You lost money
5.  Nonetheless, you just tried to buy off him
6.  You didn't get the deal
7.  So you're crying.

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Your a fuckup
I did research the bills.
He misled what they were

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2019, 03:16:31 PM »
& not here representing the stable -& do agree with some of your assessments..
Just think it is time to move on.

Honestly you come here a bad mouth the guy- essentially call him a criminal & then are outraged when he doesn't gift wrap a horse for you.
Business is business but why would he do you any favors..
& you have bought a horse off him before that went backward so we all can make miscalculations..

You say you dont want to argue on here vut then you totally misread the issue.
Ot has nothing to do with "giftwtlrapping"
If anything i tried to gift wrap a sale For HIM
 How is it gift wrapping if I am willing to pay more than fair market value?

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #87 on: September 05, 2019, 03:17:58 PM »
Your a fuckup
I did research the bills.
He misled what they were

Of course im going to try to buy off of someone with 150 horses that cant give each horse the attention it needs

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #88 on: September 05, 2019, 03:52:13 PM »
how can the bill be $6k for a month, never mind 3 months
the site says your monthly bill is $2500 plus extras.  Thats $3500 of extras? 

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Re: anthony just keeps robbing his owners
« Reply #89 on: September 05, 2019, 04:19:45 PM »
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