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Title: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 06, 2020, 09:40:37 AM
3 of the biggest jokes and scams in horse racing. The 3 together donít have a penny saved. Myron being the laughing joke of sale in Maryland all week. He lies and Anthony swears by it and these investors just keep buying there bull. Gurfein is a has been who got lucky a few times and pushed out of the game and declared non competitive anymore. Murrey fired from Hanover and hated by Doctor J. He was nothing but useless payroll and trouble. Best part is they all think they are something special. Specially washed out maybe.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Barnman69 on November 06, 2020, 12:39:02 PM
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Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: NJ The best on November 06, 2020, 01:21:19 PM
Dead on. Myron a clown  Gurf a bigger clown.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Jazzman on November 06, 2020, 01:23:44 PM
3 wind bags who think they know it all
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 06, 2020, 01:39:31 PM
BROWN A FAG
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: NJ The best on November 06, 2020, 02:50:55 PM
Tell Myron to buy a pair of socks. Without George where would he be?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 06, 2020, 03:45:28 PM
pacing queen and others, please list your accomplishments in the industry so we can compare to ones you have called out
just curious
thanks
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: jupiter on November 06, 2020, 04:54:23 PM
Ya donīt win that many Hambos on luck, Ask the Simpsons what they think of Murray, he didnīt stay at Hanover that many years being an idiot. Agree Myron a pain in the ass but heīs harmless.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Gym Jeffersun on November 06, 2020, 06:37:37 PM
3 of the biggest jokes and scams in horse racing. The 3 together donít have a penny saved. Myron being the laughing joke of sale in Maryland all week. He lies and Anthony swears by it and these investors just keep buying there bull. Gurfein is a has been who got lucky a few times and pushed out of the game and declared non competitive anymore. Murrey fired from Hanover and hated by Doctor J. He was nothing but useless payroll and trouble. Best part is they all think they are something special. Specially washed out maybe.

The "RING" leader, no doubt the biggest joke, "The Mouth" of harness racing......accor ding to the Mouth........he is and was harness racing

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Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Barnman69 on November 07, 2020, 05:23:57 PM
Brown has always been egotistical overbearing PRICK
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: jupiter on November 07, 2020, 06:46:40 PM
Always treated me well, either at the farm, sale and especially in the winter when he would stop by to check out how ya were doing. Did his job and I think he did it extremely well.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 07, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
Gurfein is all bullshit as is Myron Bell, Murray is harmless and just wants to make sure people still talk about him.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 07, 2020, 07:49:46 PM
umm ok
please remind us how many hambo winners and world champions you have owned or trained
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 07, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Jug in the big picture what I won or didn't win has no bearing. The point I was making this two faced fuck Gurfein has the audacity to offer an opinion when he was what is in the news now, he was a cheating fuck who BS'd his owners to go along with it. Myron Bell is just plain BS nothing more than a carney with his shell game. Murray is just Murray and he has to thank HRU for keeping his name in the harness news.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 07, 2020, 09:40:35 PM
ok, your opinion i guess
 i don't know them like you must
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 07, 2020, 10:21:53 PM
Jug in the big picture what I won or didn't win has no bearing. The point I was making this two faced fuck Gurfein has the audacity to offer an opinion when he was what is in the news now, he was a cheating fuck who BS'd his owners to go along with it. Myron Bell is just plain BS nothing more than a carney with his shell game. Murray is just Murray and he has to thank HRU for keeping his name in the harness news.

Gurfein and murrey both still only talked about because HRU letís them talk about there past who no one cares about. Myron would be on food stamps if not for Captain T and scamming partnerships on buying brittany breds and his own mares foals for outrageous over priced average yearlings. And with all that he still is basically broke. Murrey just big mouth who talks air and owns 5% of a few horses and did nothing but spend other peopleís money his whole life. Gurfein couldnít compete at Hawthorne now let along grand circuit. And Donna Lee wants to chime in on facebook, your son is a joke and robs his owners along with Myron, Spent 7 million on babies last year, probably 100 horses at 4000 a month training, another 5 million in training, another 3 million in staking, 15 million in cost, barn made 4.9 million in 2020  ngc3 ngc3
-10 million this year for owners, fabulous job team alagna
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Casualfan1 on November 07, 2020, 11:55:21 PM
I donít know Gurfein or Murray much and yea Myron is a full of shit blabber mouth but IMO ole Ernie M has them beat all to hell. Iím not sure itís possible anyone in this game is a bigger tool than that guy
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Manny on November 08, 2020, 12:32:32 AM
Met a guy once who got scammed 7k by Ernie.  Next time  Ernie sees the guy he walks right up to him to shake his hand like nothing happened.  My pal did say his wife looked like a horny one.

Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 08, 2020, 08:15:01 AM
yeah, those brittany breds are horrible , and who wants captain treacherouse horses, what have they ever done
keep racing those  $7k claimers
 ngc3
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: deracingfan on November 10, 2020, 09:08:43 AM
I post a topic about George Nap getting a pass not being involved with all these trainers and Gurfein getting pissy in the last HRU and it gets deleted?  If was an actual racing discussion and wasn't moved...it was deleted.  Why?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Emperor Dapple on November 10, 2020, 09:20:32 AM
Piggy and Lukpark donít like the topic?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 10, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
Blame it on Gurfein he doesn't like to be called out, maybe he's a new mod.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: deracingfan on November 10, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
Both excellent guesses.  Who knows, it was a legit topic.  Funny Gurfein got so defensive of Wrenn's positive.  Nice people cheat too.  Just because they are your friends and nice people doesn't mean they didn't push the limits and get caught.  He thinks he know everything about everything.  And I was looking to see if anyone had thought it was coincidental that G Nap gets all the drives from the usual suspects.  And gets a free pass that he isn't involved and has no idea what's going on.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 10, 2020, 10:04:52 AM
I don't know if it was here or somewhere else that I read Gurfein likes to make people think he's loaded with cash when really he's not. I have no idea but I know first hand he wasn't liked by many of the other trainers when he was training.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 10, 2020, 10:15:29 AM
Both excellent guesses.  Who knows, it was a legit topic.  Funny Gurfein got so defensive of Wrenn's positive.  Nice people cheat too.  Just because they are your friends and nice people doesn't mean they didn't push the limits and get caught.  He thinks he know everything about everything.  And I was looking to see if anyone had thought it was coincidental that G Nap gets all the drives from the usual suspects.  And gets a free pass that he isn't involved and has no idea what's going on.
Allard is a helluva nice guy, buys more rounds then anyone
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Bernie Madoff on November 10, 2020, 10:27:49 AM
Allard is a helluva nice guy, buys more rounds then anyone




That means he is a fucking drunk.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: LUCPARK on November 10, 2020, 10:28:08 AM
Allard is a helluva nice guy, buys more rounds then anyone

GOOD GUY FRIENDLY GUY

ALWAYS BUYS

BOUGHT MYSELF AND ATC STEAKS  tmbz1
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 10, 2020, 10:31:17 AM
Before WEG threw him out when you talked with him you could smell he had a few but he's no different than some others.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: LUCPARK on November 10, 2020, 10:38:18 AM
Piggy and Lukpark donít like the topic?

im hurt

seriously my heart aches
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: PIGLAND on November 10, 2020, 11:20:56 AM
i hate nap
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: LUCPARK on November 10, 2020, 11:27:06 AM
i hate nap
'

i take naps every day from 2 to 330 its good for you and healthy
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Bernie Madoff on November 10, 2020, 01:00:19 PM
'

i take naps every day from 2 to 330 its good for you and healthy





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Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 10, 2020, 04:47:57 PM
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i take naps every day from 2 to 330 its good for you and healthy

GERITOL?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: LUCPARK on November 10, 2020, 05:41:52 PM
yes

Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 10, 2020, 11:16:23 PM
I don't know if it was here or somewhere else that I read Gurfein likes to make people think he's loaded with cash when really he's not. I have no idea but I know first hand he wasn't liked by many of the other trainers when he was training.


0$
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 11, 2020, 11:31:09 AM

0$


 ngc3
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: NJ The best on November 11, 2020, 02:14:39 PM
Please Gurfein use to shoot dice at the Monticelloís SBOA office back in the day trying to win a 100 bucks with Leon wunderlich , Pete brandstatter , John desimone , clown 🤡
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 11, 2020, 02:28:09 PM
Please Gurfein use to shoot dice at the Monticelloís SBOA office back in the day trying to win a 100 bucks with Leon wunderlich , Pete brandstatter , John desimone , clown 🤡

BAD CARD PLAYER TOO
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Emperor Dapple on November 11, 2020, 06:24:09 PM
BAD CARD PLAYER TOO

Who was a good card player up there?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: augustaandy on November 11, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
Gurfein and murrey both still only talked about because HRU letís them talk about there past who no one cares about. Myron would be on food stamps if not for Captain T and scamming partnerships on buying brittany breds and his own mares foals for outrageous over priced average yearlings. And with all that he still is basically broke. Murrey just big mouth who talks air and owns 5% of a few horses and did nothing but spend other peopleís money his whole life. Gurfein couldnít compete at Hawthorne now let along grand circuit. And Donna Lee wants to chime in on facebook, your son is a joke and robs his owners along with Myron, Spent 7 million on babies last year, probably 100 horses at 4000 a month training, another 5 million in training, another 3 million in staking, 15 million in cost, barn made 4.9 million in 2020  ngc3 ngc3
-10 million this year for owners, fabulous job team alagna


year has been hard on everyone with the tracks closed for months and purses way down

don't pin it on any specific trainer

Ramona Hill was spectacular


Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 11, 2020, 06:36:22 PM

year has been hard on everyone with the tracks closed for months and purses way down

don't pin it on any specific trainer

Ramona Hill was spectacular

Where has she been the second half of the year?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 12, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
Who was a good card player up there?

   Most tracks were easy marks on the backside at least. Join the games where they drink, and score usually.  Just don't try to join a game where you didn't belong.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Calhoun on November 12, 2020, 09:08:01 AM
   Most tracks were easy marks on the backside at least. Join the games where they drink, and score usually.  Just don't try to join a game where you didn't belong.
If you sit down and after 1/2 dozen hands you can't tell who the sucker is... it's you.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 12, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
If you sit down and after 1/2 dozen hands you can't tell who the sucker is... it's you.

  Lots of truth there...Rounders ngc3
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 12, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
thought alagna trained captain barbossa who won the jug
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: chester on November 12, 2020, 11:37:43 AM
Where has she been the second half of the year?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: chester on November 12, 2020, 11:38:25 AM
lame
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Manny on November 12, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
The 3 Stoojews. 

Myron is Mo
Murry is Larry
Gurf is Curly

Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: MR.DALRAE on November 13, 2020, 06:12:52 PM
Myron is far from broke
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: jupiter on November 13, 2020, 07:38:22 PM
Gurfīs gone through a ton of cash, living on SSI.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 13, 2020, 09:29:41 PM
Myron is far from broke

Mr Dalrae your WAY off here

Owed everyone under the sun until captain went to stud. He scammed 6 shares which saved him but every year he has sold 1 share off so he is dwindling down and only has 2-3 left now. Guy is laughing joke of harness racing.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: jupiter on November 13, 2020, 09:53:42 PM
like Peck did with Muscle Hill breedings
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: MR.DALRAE on November 13, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Mr Dalrae your WAY off here

Owed everyone under the sun until captain went to stud. He scammed 6 shares which saved him but every year he has sold 1 share off so he is dwindling down and only has 2-3 left now. Guy is laughing joke of harness racing.

He is my friend,,,,,as long as George is alive he has no worries
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 15, 2020, 05:59:27 AM
He is my friend,,,,,as long as George is alive he has no worries

Donít look like thereís much time left for him to be fine then.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 15, 2020, 07:59:20 AM
myron scammed 6 shares of captain???
do tell queenie
i thought he bought the horse as a yearling
i thought he owned some of the horse
i thought he managed his racing career
i thought he put together the syndicate deal for stud

i think you should get something for that no???
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 15, 2020, 08:07:06 AM
myron scammed 6 shares of captain???
do tell queenie
i thought he bought the horse as a yearling
i thought he owned some of the horse
i thought he managed his racing career
i thought he put together the syndicate deal for stud

i think you should get something for that no???

HE didnít put up $1. Anyone can go to sale and say buy the top 6 pacing colts for $200,000+

Alagna managed his racing.

Marvin Katz syndicated him with Hanover.

$600,000 he got for what? He has cost those owners much more then he has made them. The number of people Myrťn has broke is greater than the number of people tested positive for corona virus.



Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 15, 2020, 11:58:14 AM
geez queenie, i didn't know it was that easy, just go buy the most expensive ones in the sale
guaranteed success
oh wait, update from 2019 lexington
maverick $1.1 m, earned $3k
damien, $1.0m, earned 0
some terror(one eight hundred) $800,000 earned $17k
really fast $700,000, earned 0
ineffable $600,000  earned $74k

oops , guess that doesn't always work
whose to blame for those ones

not suggesting these horses are no good or will not race and make money one day just based on their 2 yr old season
i am sure there are more

Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 15, 2020, 02:26:52 PM
geez queenie, i didn't know it was that easy, just go buy the most expensive ones in the sale
guaranteed success
oh wait, update from 2019 lexington
maverick $1.1 m, earned $3k
damien, $1.0m, earned 0
some terror(one eight hundred) $800,000 earned $17k
really fast $700,000, earned 0
ineffable $600,000  earned $74k

oops , guess that doesn't always work
whose to blame for those ones

not suggesting these horses are no good or will not race and make money one day just based on their 2 yr old season
i am sure there are more

Who ever buys a yearling trotter for $1.1 million and thinks itís a good idea to have Anthony Alagna train it either has too much money or is brainwashed by his bullshit. Over the last couple of years, you would go Melander, Takter, Julie Miller, Ron Burke. NOT Alagna. Takter / Miller / Melander start with less then half the babies Alagna does and they show up and destroy him every year. Anthony will be back in Illinois working at Fox Valley Standardbreds again soon with Erv switching off on feeding duties and cleaning stalls.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 15, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
no argument on your comments regarding maverick
my point was a general one showing that spending large dollars does not guarantee success no matter who the trainer is
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: jupiter on November 15, 2020, 03:29:16 PM
More sales toppers are busts than great, Myron just Myron, he hooked his star to George. He was annoying long before CaptainT, that just inflated him even more in his own eyes
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 15, 2020, 06:20:14 PM
Who ever buys a yearling trotter for $1.1 million and thinks itís a good idea to have Anthony Alagna train it either has too much money or is brainwashed by his bullshit. Over the last couple of years, you would go Melander, Takter, Julie Miller, Ron Burke. NOT Alagna. Takter / Miller / Melander start with less then half the babies Alagna does and they show up and destroy him every year. Anthony will be back in Illinois working at Fox Valley Standardbreds again soon with Erv switching off on feeding duties and cleaning stalls.
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  ERV WONT TAKE THAT JOB
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 16, 2020, 08:14:20 AM
Might as well add the old gay Jerry Glantz to the topic. No body cares about your facebook updates on your 4 claimer being broke at farm or sucking Murrey off giving him his updates on 5% he owns.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 16, 2020, 09:09:30 AM
Might as well add the old gay Jerry Glantz to the topic. No body cares about your facebook updates on your 4 claimer being broke at farm or sucking Murrey off giving him his updates on 5% he owns.

YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT THAT STUFF...
HOW?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Racing Troll on November 16, 2020, 09:19:05 AM
Might as well add the old gay Jerry Glantz to the topic. No body cares about your facebook updates on your 4 claimer being broke at farm or sucking Murrey off giving him his updates on 5% he owns.
YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT THAT STUFF...
HOW?

WITH A NAME LIKE THAT. PRETTY OBVIOUS IF U AXE ME
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 16, 2020, 09:30:34 AM
WITH A NAME LIKE THAT. PRETTY OBVIOUS IF U AXE ME

I SEE NOW
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Harness Stats on November 16, 2020, 02:43:22 PM
IMO you guys are being trolled by this "Queen".   Look her him it up on the site. Joined in 2011 and is just posting it's brains out now Nine years later.   

Also everything out of it's mouth has about 10 to 20 percent truth max.  For example Alagna bought one American Ideal for over a hundred grand for Brad Grant at Lex from Crawfords consignment  ... not the quantity quoted. 

Sounds like one of the regs with multi accounts is looking for pigeons
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 16, 2020, 05:19:26 PM
IMO you guys are being trolled by this "Queen".   Look her him it up on the site. Joined in 2011 and is just posting it's brains out now Nine years later.   

Also everything out of it's mouth has about 10 to 20 percent truth max.  For example Alagna bought one American Ideal for over a hundred grand for Brad Grant at Lex from Crawfords consignment  ... not the quantity quoted. 

Sounds like one of the regs with multi accounts is looking for pigeons

  You are on to something..... tmbz1
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 16, 2020, 08:10:31 PM
YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT THAT STUFF...
HOW?

People feed into these gossip queens. Gurfein had to get out because Takter, Trond, Melander, Burke, J Miller, absolutely crushed him and he canít compete, specially after Mike LaChance stop training his horses for him. Myrťn iíve already said, biggest fake in harness racing and cost people tens of millions of dollars in long run, if not a hundred million. Murrey got fired from Hanover because Russel and Bridgette couldnít stand him and was 0 factor, he jerk people off at dinner when you go see yearlings at farm, then sit in office at sale and get fatter eating while approving everyoneís credit until 1 year he over approved and sale company had to chase millions and then he was fired and replaced.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 16, 2020, 08:23:56 PM
YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT THAT STUFF...
HOW?

They burned more money buying yearlings and charging owners then Bernie  Madoff and Robert Bongirono made in there ponzie schemes. Gurfein never put 1$ of his own into buying babies. Myrťn puts together partnerships and charges % of what horses make and the people who pay him are idiots. Alagna can do it him self like every other trainer but him and Myrťn scam together. Murrey old geezer who owns 5% of horses his daughter buys for him to keep him entertained.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 17, 2020, 09:02:48 AM
People feed into these gossip queens. Gurfein had to get out because Takter, Trond, Melander, Burke, J Miller, absolutely crushed him and he canít compete, specially after Mike LaChance stop training his horses for him. Myrťn iíve already said, biggest fake in harness racing and cost people tens of millions of dollars in long run, if not a hundred million. Murrey got fired from Hanover because Russel and Bridgette couldnít stand him and was 0 factor, he jerk people off at dinner when you go see yearlings at farm, then sit in office at sale and get fatter eating while approving everyoneís credit until 1 year he over approved and sale company had to chase millions and then he was fired and replaced.

  Lots of truth here, yes. tmbz1.  I know 1 guy that walked with an ok at Harrisburg because of "connections".  They hadta chase him for the cash.  Actually claimed he had paid.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 17, 2020, 10:30:03 AM
really, Myron has cost people tens of millions, oh no wait a hundred million
get your calculator out and do the math , any idea how much a hundred million is , oh yes it would 100 mavericks , assuming none of them made a penny
take a rest fella
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 17, 2020, 11:41:49 AM
really, Myron has cost people tens of millions, oh no wait a hundred million
get your calculator out and do the math , any idea how much a hundred million is , oh yes it would 100 mavericks , assuming none of them made a penny
take a rest fella

When you buy 5-8 million dollars a year in yearlings and been doing it 20 plus years with a lot of different trainers you do the math sweet cheeks.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 17, 2020, 11:42:46 AM
On top of staking, training, ect. Easily over 100 million dollars.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 17, 2020, 12:03:21 PM
When you buy 5-8 million dollars a year in yearlings and been doing it 20 plus years with a lot of different trainers you do the math sweet cheeks.

"Sweet cheeks"?   oh my!!!!!
I HOPE YOU ARE REALLY A GIRL BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE MATH REALLY IS CLEAR
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 17, 2020, 02:15:02 PM
I assume you have calculated in the earnings of the horses and any stallion and /or broodmare values
just helps when doing a proper balance sheet
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: horsetruth on November 17, 2020, 05:20:16 PM
Who did Captain Treacherous beat as a race horse???
Anyone?
Buehler?
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: LUCPARK on November 17, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
Who did Captain Treacherous beat as a race horse???
Anyone?
Buehler?

at this point it dont really matters

30k for live foal bred to the captain

justa fact
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: deracingfan on November 17, 2020, 06:33:04 PM
at this point it dont really matters

30k for live foal bred to the captain

justa fact

I hate to agree with Luc...but it doesn't matter if he could pass a parked car.  He is making huge money as a stud.  And he was a great racehorse in his own right.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Brown jug on November 17, 2020, 06:59:31 PM
wow horse truth where to start
i suspect captain treacherous beat the majority of the horses he raced against, i think that is about all you can do, what those horses did after that is irrelevant , at the moment in time he beat them

of course art official beat sbsw so he should be a great sire ...correct??, oops doesn't work that way
captain treacherous is currently the dominant sire and unless someone steps up he will continue to be with sbsw unfortunately no longer a factor and  a future dominant broodmare sire
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 21, 2020, 11:39:10 PM
Myrťn where are all your great horses tonight? Stay in FL and hide with Murrey. Lie to everyone on the deck how great there horses are until your next excuse why they donít perform comes up.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: The Exporter on November 22, 2020, 03:57:22 AM
wow horse truth where to start
i suspect captain treacherous beat the majority of the horses he raced against, i think that is about all you can do, what those horses did after that is irrelevant , at the moment in time he beat them

of course art official beat sbsw so he should be a great sire ...correct??, oops doesn't work that way
captain treacherous is currently the dominant sire and unless someone steps up he will continue to be with sbsw unfortunately no longer a factor and  a future dominant broodmare sire

A little update on Art Official. About 2 years ago Art Official was sold to a stud farm in Argentina, where he has been breeding to mares by, Whatapacer and such.
 
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Iceman on November 22, 2020, 08:28:42 AM
In case you might not have noticed HRU seems to have dropped their FEEDBACK section. Could it have been because of Plop and this thread whatever but it goes to show you HRU is just like all the other racing media "THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and only report about the fluff and they build up and praise persons who are sketchy at best.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 22, 2020, 09:31:25 AM
ONCE AGAIN, Murrey with another pointless article. NO ONE cares about Moria Fanning. Her husband is a joke of a trainer who will soon be working for Burke and she is nothing but a waste of money at Hambo Society which she gets paid out of people staking there horses. Thank you Murrey for another horrible interview and reminding us of more horrible trainers and people in this business who should be working in middle school lunch rooms. Tom Fanning couldnít train a fish to swim. Tom and Moria 2 big goofy looking misfits.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: master blaster on November 22, 2020, 11:40:05 AM
ONCE AGAIN, Murrey with another pointless article. NO ONE cares about Moria Fanning. Her husband is a joke of a trainer who will soon be working for Burke and she is nothing but a waste of money at Hambo Society which she gets paid out of people staking there horses. Thank you Murrey for another horrible interview and reminding us of more horrible trainers and people in this business who should be working in middle school lunch rooms. Tom Fanning couldnít train a fish to swim. Tom and Moria 2 big goofy looking misfits.

YOU ARE ONE JEALOUS, BORED PERSON. IF TRAINER WINS TO MUCH, THEY JUICE AND CHEAT. TOM FANNING DOESN'T JUICE AND CHEAT AND HE IS A JOKE! MUST SUCK TO BE MISERABLE AND HATEFUL ALL THE TIME  11.wp
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 22, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
YOU ARE ONE JEALOUS, BORED PERSON. IF TRAINER WINS TO MUCH, THEY JUICE AND CHEAT. TOM FANNING DOESN'T JUICE AND CHEAT AND HE IS A JOKE! MUST SUCK TO BE MISERABLE AND HATEFUL ALL THE TIME  11.wp

Murrey promotes actual horrible trainers and has been names of business. Promote someone like Frank or Phil Antonacci who every body likes. Not Moria and Tom Fanning who should be working as Wal Mart greeters.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Pacingqueen on November 24, 2020, 10:03:20 AM
In case you might not have noticed HRU seems to have dropped their FEEDBACK section. Could it have been because of Plop and this thread whatever but it goes to show you HRU is just like all the other racing media "THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and only report about the fluff and they build up and praise persons who are sketchy at best.


HRU afraid to have Murrey and Ron Gurfein exposed. They never posted many many negative comments about them. They are realizing they are hated.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 24, 2020, 06:23:14 PM
THEY SHOULD TAKE TURNS COMPRESSING EACH OTHERS COLONS
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Bernie Madoff on November 24, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
THEY SHOULD TAKE TURNS COMPRESSING EACH OTHERS COLONS




Lance says colon compression is always the solution.
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Foalin at 4 on November 25, 2020, 05:04:51 PM
THEY SHOULD TAKE TURNS COMPRESSING EACH OTHERS COLONS
Ron and Myron are ok (a little full of themselves), but Murrey has a compressed colon for a brain. Bridgette and Russell didn't believe anything he said anymore, so they had to let him go. Murrey's kind of a nice old fart, but he really says alot of stupid shit. He might have dementia!
Title: Re: Ron Gurfein, Myron Bell, Murrey Brown
Post by: Fatboy on November 25, 2020, 06:46:05 PM
Ron and Myron are ok (a little full of themselves), but Murrey has a compressed colon for a brain. Bridgette and Russell didn't believe anything he said anymore, so they had to let him go. Murrey's kind of a nice old fart, but he really says alot of stupid shit. He might have dementia!


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